The Melanie Avalon Biohacking Podcast Episode #249 - Oliver Niño

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Melanie Avalon:
Hi friends, welcome back to the show. I am so incredibly excited about the conversation that I'm about to have. So it is about a topic that means a lot to me that personally resonates with me a ton, but which I historically have sort of a casual relationship with, I guess I would say. And basically, I am all about vibes and people's energy. And it's something that I personally try to embody and I experience and I feel with people and I think it's a very real thing. All of that said, I haven't really taken a concentrated, studied approach to it, if that makes sense. Like I haven't really dived into it as far as, you know, what actually creates our energetic vibe and how can we change it and what is going on with things like chakras and auras and our dreams and all of that stuff. And so when I saw the new book out by the fantastic Oliver Nino called Spiritual Activator, Five Steps to Clearing, Unblocking and Protecting Your Energy to Attract More Love, Joy and Purpose, I was over the moon thrilled about the possibility of reading the book, talking with Oliver and just diving deep into it. And friends, reading the book was such, it was honestly, it was such an incredible journey. We'll talk about this with Oliver, but I was really, really fascinated by, historically, when I, you know, read content like this, it's often, A, it's often not so practical, per se, but this book actually provides an actual program that you can literally do to do things like address, you know, the energy state that you're in and raise your vibe and all the things. And so I just have so many questions. I've spoken with Oliver briefly because we had some scheduling hiccups and I'm already just like, I just love this man so much. So Oliver, thank you so much for being here.

Oliver Niño:
Thank you so much. Thank you for having me

Melanie Avalon:
I'm sure a lot of listeners are probably familiar with your work when you've just done so much and you work with so many people, including a lot of celebrities, and you've really had a profound effect on thousands and thousands of people. But for those who are not familiar with you, you talk about your personal story in the book. Oh, which by the way, before that, you narrated the audiobook, right?

Oliver Niño:
Yes, that was me.

Melanie Avalon:
What was that experience like? I always love asking people about that because I know it's like such a like a big journey to go on when you narrate it.

Oliver Niño:
Yeah, not as good as my wife because I was there when she was recording hers and she's like literally like they blocked up I think three or four days to record hers and she got it down like a day and a half and I'm like two, two and a half days like taking my time. Like, you know, I mean, like it's, you know, I wanted to make sure that I also brought a lot of emotions and excitement and infused audio with energy as well. So it was, you know, there was a lot of layers to it, but it was, it was fun. It was fun. It was one of the things to where I'm like, okay, you know, this, this is how people do it right now. I see, you know.

Melanie Avalon:
No, same. I'm always so because I did a lot of audio book recordings in the past and it's just it's like not what people think if they haven't done it before. It's a whole journey. That's so great though that you got to I love it when the authors narrate their own book because you get to hear it in their own words and their own passion. And like you said, you know, you really get to bring an energy to it. So that's so, so amazing. So in any case, so you talk about your personal story in that book. Could you tell listeners a little bit about your journey and, you know, why you're doing what you're doing today?

Oliver Niño:
Yeah, I mean, I like to refer to myself as almost like an accidental healer, right? It's not one of the things that I thought I would be doing, that I dreamed about doing. It was, you know, it came out of nowhere and it came in strong, right? Because my background is in entrepreneurship. That's my first love, right? You know, building businesses, you know, selling them, growing them, scaling them. And I've done that, you know, very successfully. I remember times where I was stuck, whether it's in my, you know, business or stuck in my relationships and nothing else worked. Like, you know, energy healing was the only thing that worked when everything else failed, right? So for me, I started off like really skeptical, left brain, questioning everything, right? But I couldn't, I couldn't fight the fact that, you know, running in my blood, like, you know, my family members, it's like, they're very gifted, right? And the Philippines is the land of like a lot of healers as well. So, you know, I try to, you know, I try to not run away because it didn't really, when I was growing up, it didn't dawn on me that that was the culture in the background. It was like, it was like a silent thing, a silent theme, you know? And I was a little bit more of a, you know, rebellious musician, so I didn't really pay attention to it. But I didn't factor in that, like, hey, if you grow up in that environment, if it's in the bloodline, if it's in the culture, then at one point in time, it's going to, you know, come up and activate, right? So I wasn't thinking about that. But, you know, when I was in Sedona, you know, it gets kind of like find myself in a, in a spiritual journey, all of a sudden, like, in all these, like, different spiritual gifts awakened in like literally a week, in a weekend, right? And it was one of the things that I was in a sacred site, you know, Vortex Point, and all of a sudden, I could see energy, I could know things, I could feel things, and I'm like, what's going on, right? I was kind of a little bit shocked because I wasn't expecting any of that stuff. I just came in full force. And ever since then, it's like one of the things that I couldn't shake off, no matter how hard I tried, like, you know, and it's one of the things to where when it's running through you, all of a sudden, like, you know, you just have this pull, this urge to use it for good, right? So based on that experience, you know, came the next part of my journey of like, starting to do, do healings on people. I've done probably like close to 30 ,000 plus sessions. And I would just, people would just come like I was, because I was a closet healer back then, like, and I wouldn't market it, I didn't want the world to know it. So I would tell friends and family, next thing you know, they have a great experience, they bring their friends. And next thing you know, it's like, it's like this long list of folks that want to work with you. And for me, it was just like, okay, you know, let me let me just do this. Because for some reason, I was just, I was just pulled to do it. It's like this driving force, this invisible driving force, I was just pushing me daily to do it to where I'm like, okay, I guess, you know, this is what life is now. Like, you know, just doing healings on the side when you're, you know, you own a international, you know, business, right? So I did that for a while, until my wife, Mandy, was pregnant with our first son Zion. And that was when I had to take a hard look at the mirror and be like, you know, do I want to spend the rest of my life hiding, right? Do I want my child to be born and see that, you know, his father is afraid to be seen and to really, you know, own his truth, right? So that was when I was, you know, faced with this really, really, like, you know, tough situation of like, you know, shine my light fully or hide and continue to do things like I have. So obviously, you know, looking back, you know, I chose the latter, which is the best decision of like, you know, I'm just going to shine, shine fully and do this and be seen, right? And kind of like, and launch myself into the world as, you know, spiritual activator, as a healer, and life has never been the same since. Like, you know, all these opportunities that I never thought would come up, have come up, and I would have never thought I'd be doing what I'm doing now, or could have even dreamt about the things that have come up since I made that decision. But it was probably, you know, it's probably the best decision I've ever, I've ever made when it comes to purpose work, you know?

Melanie Avalon:
That's incredible. Okay. I have so many questions just from what you just said. So when you had before, when you were quote, you know, hiding a little bit or afraid to do this more publicly, did the content or the effects of your healings themselves change when you made that switch? Since you no longer had that, you know, maybe that residual fear there.

Oliver Niño:
I don't think it changed because every single time I was, well, actually let me rewind. As far as the one -on -one healings that I did, they were the same, because when I was doing healings back in the day, I never healed others through the lenses of my human story. I was always a vessel for something higher, so I'm always doing the healings from my soul space, my higher self, something flowing through me. So in that case, they never really affected the results for other people. As far as the results for me, because the thing is when I'm doing healings, it doesn't matter if what I'm going through, I do it in such a place to where I'm always, I'm always stepping into higher lenses, so I'm doing it from a different place. So people are always getting the same quality every single time. Now, if I'm hiding and I'm in fear, then does that mean I'm in a vibration to where I might be more tired from the healings, or they're slower, or it affects me more? Because I have something within me that's not in alignment at that time, therefore I'm in a lower vibration, therefore things would affect me that normally wouldn't if I was living in a higher vibration. So there's two separate things. As a healer, was it longer, more drawn out, and I got tired more before I started to be seen? Yes. But as far as the end -user experience has been the same all throughout. But again, also, after I stepped into my purpose, all of a sudden, newer versions of the gift showed up to where instead of doing one -on -one healings, all of a sudden, I'm now gifted with more knowledge in how to do healings on groups of people, bigger groups, right? Now, some of the groups, I do healings on there in the thousands that I do it at a one sitting, and it still works. And I remember being given more information on different healing modalities that just flowed through me after I made a decision of shining my light and being seen and going all in, because I feel like making that decision catapulted me to a higher vibration. And at higher vibration, just more sacred knowledge was available to me.

Melanie Avalon:
So two, not to start on a negative, but two barriers I would love to address or get your opinion on, because just the overall nature of this content. So there's two, there may be more, but there's two like big quote, elephant in the rooms, I think of when I think of this, as far as people being suspicious or skeptical or, so one would be people who just say that it's quote woo woo and not real and not scientific, which you touched on briefly. And then the second one would be, I personally was raised in like Bible belt, Christian South, very religious, very Christian. And so this type of work, I think when it would come up and my upbringing was seen, not as like woo woo, but as demonic in a way, like that would probably be what it would be labeled as, which is very interesting. So just to like start with that, those barriers that people might have, and maybe there's more that you'd like to add. What are your thoughts on all that?

Oliver Niño:
Sure. I mean, it is actually more common than you think. I actually, in the Philippines, it's like a strict Catholic nation to where my grandfather's brother was an archbishop, right? So we had a lot of priests in the family, and it's interesting because I feel like in the Philippines, it's, yes, we have those things, but then there's also the culture of like, you know, there's a lot of healers in the Philippines as well, right? To where religious beliefs, yeah, it might be like, eh, not so great, like what you mentioned, it might be dark, it might be just not godly, but then in our culture, it was widely accepted to have healers, right? That heal the land, heal people, and, you know, Philippines is known for that. So there was always, you know, two lenses in which to view things, but yeah, to your point, the way I look at it is, yeah, people sometimes think, yeah, it's outside of the realm of my beliefs and all those different things, but here's the thing is when I look at healing, I see it across different religions, different backgrounds, so you can have somebody, you know, literally with a loved one who is terminally ill, and they pray, and then a person is healed, right? Because they are like, you know, their intention and their prayer is pure, and they're asking a higher power to do that, right, to help and assist. And the thing is when I'm doing this stuff, it's not me who's doing it, you know, whenever I'm talking with people, it's like, I ask them, like, what are your beliefs, do you believe in God, higher power, universe, what are your beliefs, and let's call your higher power to be part of this healing, right, to facilitate it, to be here, to really just help with it. And for me, the way I look at it is I'm just a vessel, like I'm a facilitator, I'm a vessel, I'm here working with their higher power, and that's how the healing occurs. So I don't look at it as anything outside of what they already believe in, because for me it's like, whatever they believe in, that's the energy that we're working with.

Melanie Avalon:
Yeah, that completely makes sense. And I even saw that I was reading through a lot of the reviews of the book, the majority of which are really fantastic. And some of them were actually touching on that. Like I was reading, because I was really interested in the ones written, the reviews from the Christian perspective, just because I was so saturated in it growing up. And I was reading some of the reviews saying basically what you just said, that it was in line with their, you know, their religious upbringing from a Christian perspective, basically what you just said. So.

Oliver Niño:
And the thing with it as well is when I talk about energy healing, people sometimes automatically jump into, oh, it's a bunch of crystals and a bunch of, you know, this new age and rituals and all those different things. And I'm like, I get that that's a sector of it, but, you know, that's not typically what I mean by that. Like, I have practices that I teach to where, you know, people want to feel better than they move their body, they exercise or they get sunlight or they take a salt bath, right? Or they set an intention or like, you know, there's more than one way of doing it. And a lot of times the things that clear our energy, that release negative energy from our body are things that we already normally love doing, right? Whether it's playing with animals, right? Being with elements, being by yourself, you know, creating stuff like writing, playing instruments. I mean, these things, if you look at them, they're what people do on a daily basis, right? And they might not even know or think that it has any positive effects for energy healing and clearing, but it does, right? So a lot of the times people can be doing things that clear their energy without ever knowing that's what they're doing. And that's fine because again, it's like energy clearing. In my mind, it's just a label. It's just a way to describe like, you know, a certain way of doing things, but people are clearing their energy more often than they know, just by doing the things that they, you know, naturally do every single day.

Melanie Avalon:
And to provide some language for people more and clarify and definition surrounding this concept of the actual energy itself. And this is, I hope I can articulate this question correctly, but could you kind of paint a picture of the low versus the high vibration energy state, what that looks like? And my nuanced question there is, because I think we could see it as binary, like, you know, happy feelings and joyful feelings versus like sad feelings and feeling down and feeling afraid. But then on top of that, sometimes I feel like sometimes you can have these, I don't know if they're like lower, so like non, non happy feelings, but not be personally distressed by it and almost enjoy it. So what I mean by that is like growing up, I was really attracted to like bitter sweet things and I would have like my sad quote book and I would love to like, you know, write sad quotes and then I'll listen to like sad songs. So that state of like enjoying sadness, like is that like, where does that fall on the energy spectrum? So kind of kind of a long question.

Oliver Niño:
Yeah, I mean, it's like I look at it as I'm not so much there's a lot of things in life that I'm black and white with, right, but that's not one of the things that I'm black and white with because the way I look at it is, you know, let's say somebody experiencing sadness or grief or fear, right, right. If they live in that, and that's what they're experiencing 100% or 80% of the time, and it's disempowering is debilitating, it's not allowing them to live life to the fullest. Sure, it's an issue, right. But if you are 80% of the time, you know, in neutral or high vibrations, and then sometimes sadness and fear comes in, right, then it's just part of the human experience. I mean, you want to understand why they're coming up, you want to understand what it's teaching you, you want to understand, you know, because it can be a teacher can be a lesson, it can be feedback, you're sad because of what, right, you're sad because somebody passed away, you're sad because of a heartbreak, you're sad because, you know, you feel unloved or abandoned. Those are all good things to be sad about. It doesn't mean that you're experiencing that. It doesn't mean that all of a sudden, you're, you know, you're a human being, you're a human being, you're experiencing that, you're experiencing it fully, you're learning from it, right. And then you're moving on, because the thing is when you're experiencing it fully, you process it. And when you process it, it no longer gets shoved under the rug, it no longer holds you back, it no longer is the invisible thing that controls you unconsciously because it's an unprocessed thing. It becomes the thing that you fully process, you allow yourself to feel that you love yourself through it and you gave your space time and space to feel it to where now it doesn't hold you back anymore and you move forward and you learn from it, right. Because some things can be, like if somebody passes on, like, you know, for example, a loved one passes on, like, yeah, you can be angry, you can be sad, you can feel all those different things, you can suppress that for 20, 30, 40 years. And it'll affect you mentally, emotionally, physically, and shove it under the rug and never deal with it, or you can feel it fully for a week or two or however long it takes, and then heal and allow the process to heal and then you're done. It doesn't weigh on you anymore, right. So I feel like it's, you know, it's not always, like, bad, just because you're feeling things that are low vibration, all this, it's important to put into context, you know.

Melanie Avalon:
That completely makes sense. So when I started reading your book, I was fascinated because you have this, like I mentioned earlier, a very practical, implementable program that people can literally do, like with a timeline. Like you can sit down and you can do this and you go through clearing the chakras and then the days of discovering your gifts and your abilities and your purpose work. So that actual system or program, how did you come up with it?

Oliver Niño:
So the program itself, it's interesting how it actually unfolded because I wasn't looking to build the program at the beginning, right? At the beginning, it was like, things came to me and it was how to heal myself, right? And then out of curiosity, I'm like, okay, let me go ahead. Because I'm the type of person that if I learn something and it's cool and it's helping me, I'm gonna be the first to share it with people around me, right? So out of just naturally how I'm wired, next thing you know, I'm sharing it with friends and family members and seeing them get results. And then next thing you know, I'll share it with more people. So it came to me in stages, right? It never all came at once. Because the thing is, I would get a piece of information or a methodology and I would use it, right? And I would use it for sometimes for years with nothing else showing up but that. And I would just do that over and over and over again. And I would see, okay, there's some things that I do that work with everybody or a lot of people. And there's some that only work with specific types of people, right? So for me, I would pay attention to things that work universally, right? And then those are the things that I put in the books because I wanted to make sure the book spoke to everybody and anybody, right? So for me, it is by the time it gets to something in written form like a book or gets to one of our programs, it's been massively field tested throughout the years from, you know, with different people, with different backgrounds, with different walks of life. And I have to make sure that it works on that level, not just me before I roll it out, right? And what ends up happening is the more I get into it, the deeper I get into the healings, the more people that I serve, the more I work on myself further, it catapults me to a higher vibration. And in that higher vibration, all of a sudden, more information, more knowledge becomes available to me to use, to try, to work through, right? And that's kind of been the process is like, it's something that if I wanted to rush it, I can't rush it because every time I do, nothing happens. But when I just, you know, work on myself, work on a vibration level and realizing that certain sacred information only, they're vibration -based, doesn't matter how bad you want to learn them, if you're not a vibrational match to the sacred information, it's not gonna be applicable to you, it won't work for you, it won't appeal to you, it won't even show up, right? So for me, that's where, you know, that's where the learning came is, the more I let go of wanting to learn and just focus on doing the work, the more I learned, if that makes sense.

Melanie Avalon:
And for people, cause you were talking about, you know, whether or not this is resonating with people and where people are at when people actually start this. So the order of things like you, you talk about, you know, protecting yourself versus clearing your chakras, what does that practically, practically look like?

Oliver Niño:
So there's two things, so protecting yourself, when someone is protecting yourself, the idea behind it is that you're not taking on anything that can affect you or hurt you, right? Because the thing is, if let's say you're sensitive and you go out into the mall, right, if you have protection on, the idea behind it is that you're not gonna be affected by it, right? The idea behind it is that you're, instead of absorbing and taking on stuff from other people, you simply don't, and that's the protection piece. But then there's the thing to where sometimes we don't know that we're gonna be affected by something. You know, we just don't, like, you know, somebody thinks about, yeah, you know, you weren't doing a protection mechanism, something triggered you, next thing, no, you are affected by it. You know what I mean, you're affected by it, and it's one of the things to where, shoot, what do you do now? You're affected, what do you do? And in that case, that's when you clear your energy, because, you know, it's protection that only filters things out, but what happens if it's already there, right? What if you weren't fast enough, or what if it was too overwhelming to where you couldn't protect yourself fully, right? And that's when clearing your energy comes, when it's already there, you're already feeling it's already affecting you, now it's time to clear it and release it so that it doesn't.

Melanie Avalon:
I've always much felt this way intuitively and I will feel a certain vibration or vibe and then you can just feel it from other people. Like if you walk in a room, you can, I find it so fascinating that you can not even talk to a person and, or maybe I'm just speaking for me, but, but I feel like you can feel, you know, what their energy is. I feel like when you're around lots of people socially, even if you don't know other people in the room, you can kind of feel, and again, maybe this is just my perspective, but I feel you can feel what's happening between people and it's just something that seems very concrete and yet not at all. So what are some of the exercises that, so like if a person is in that situation where maybe they, maybe they feel okay and they feel like at a good vibe and then they are exposed to somebody where it does feel like it's pulling them down or negative. So what can they literally do in that moment to address that?

Oliver Niño:
So a lot of times like like, you know when they already are affected by somebody else then they have to be proactive with clearing And a lot of times like it's easy to know how you clear by looking at what you typically do or Crave when you are overwhelmed some people when they're overwhelmed next thing, you know, they're just like these one disconnect They want to they want to go to the gym. They want to dance They want to play with her the animals some of them want to just you know alone time. They're in the water They're in nature. Some just want you know quality time with friends. They want to laugh They want to feel connected Some you just want to be in the woods or by a fire barefoot You know some want to pick up the guitar and write a song or want to you know I'm create some art or want to build stuff right in summer like hey when I'm feeling this way I want to help, you know, I want to I want to volunteer. I want to make a difference so the things those things are clues as to activities that you're You're ready. You're that already kind of hardwired in you to where you you know You have an affinity towards that you love doing it that clear your energy as well So I'm a big believer of like rather than trying to force something at the beginning do things that you already Love to do that you you you know you enjoy doing already that you do typically when you're so stressed or when you need a break or when you've overworked and and you Just need you know to kind of recenter like, you know figure those activities out and Those become the go -to things when you're you know in a place where you've absorbed a lot of negative energy from other people

Melanie Avalon:
What if you're in a situation where you can't go do that at that moment? So say you're on like a long car ride with somebody and you want to address the energy in that moment and you're stuck with them.

Oliver Niño:
And that's something, so there are gonna be some times and some areas like that to where it's like, and there are practices. I talk about it in the book to where like, yes, you can do things to where you can imagine light coming in and cleansing all the things that you absorb. And then you can do light therapy. You can do breath work to where you're breathing in for five, holding for five, exhaling for five. And when you're breathing in for five, you're breathing in light from the sun or from the heavens that's kind of filling you up with good energy. And then when you exhale for five, you're breathing out and imagining breathing out all the dark negative energy as you exhale, right? So there are definitely things to where if I'm stuck in a situation to where the environment is not as positive or the person there is debilitating or they're triggering, then I revert to energy principles like that, whether it's light therapy, breath work, energy healing itself, intention to where I'm doing that to cleanse the energy in the moment. And that's the beauty of having a lot of tools is you have things to do, like when you're buying your stuff in your house and you have the flexibility and the liberty to do that, or when you're 40 ,000 feet up in a plane, you can't do that, what do you do, right? And that's where the principles of the book come in because when you have a lot of tools, you're never gonna run out regardless of the situation. You're always gonna have something to try based on what you're experiencing.

Melanie Avalon:
The airplane one is definitely a good example. So you were talking about people doing naturally what feels good to them. So would this extend as well to things people do in the biohacking world? So like sauna and cryotherapy and those types of practices.

Oliver Niño:
I definitely see benefits in that because here's the thing is like everything is connected your mind your emotions will you do your intentions the all produce energy. So even if you like you know you're doing a cryo there which i do i do we have a song at home and i do cryo therapy were about to buy a cryo therapy machine i mean it's like.

Melanie Avalon:
You are? Well, you're gonna buy it like a machine. Oh, are you buying? Sorry, tangent. Are you gonna buy the electric one or nitrogen or?

Oliver Niño:
Is that nitrogen? Is that one you see in biohacking places or chiropractors, you step into this chamber with nitrogen and you're freezing, freezing for three minutes? You're going to get one in your house? Yeah, yeah. I mean, here's the thing, the way I'm thinking about it, if I look at people, like Tony Robbins is a good friend, and I've been doing healings on him and his wife for several years. If I look at him, in order for him to serve at a higher and harder level, he treats his body like a Formula One car. No joke. When he travels, get this, when he travels to do events in different hotels, he has three or four semi -trucks that follow him. One of them is just for optimization. The next room to him, his cryo machine travels with him.

Melanie Avalon:
Oh my gosh.

Oliver Niño:
Yes, and he has an entire

Melanie Avalon:
Does he have a colonic system as well, I think?

Oliver Niño:
They have a lot that like he's got probably 15 or 20 different things that travel with them just for health optimizing while he's on the road and that's and that's why he can work. He can he's only sleeping three hours and a night is because like, you know, I mean, your work hard, play hard. But then again, he has an entire team and also biohacking to make sure that he's peak performance. Right. So I feel like if you're gonna if you are going to stress your body at the highest levels, then it has to be supported at the highest level. So whether it's energetically my mental like an actual biohacking things, I mean, they're they all they all fit in the lifestyle of if you're serving in a harder and higher, you know.

Melanie Avalon:
One of my friends who tangentially, I think a family member works with Tony and she told me that he has a colonic machine that he travels with.

Oliver Niño:
When I was in their house, they literally have, like, the ones that I could account is probably 30 to 40 machines. It's probably, it's probably, and I love it about him. He's just, it's, it's probably over, I've heard it gets over two to $3 million worth of opt in dot one house. And I know he's got a lot that he puts in different houses, right? But there's a lot. And, and again, it's like, it's the dedication to health and he wants to just, you know, have every single event that he does to be 10 out of 10, a hundred percent, you know, everybody gets him at, at his best. So he has high demands for himself. I think his body is, is high demand as well, as far as it needing to replenish and to, to heal and stuff, you know.

Melanie Avalon:
And then going back to the different tools and modalities that people can do to raise their vibration, I would imagine, and I'm not saying it's placebo effect at all, these things, but I would imagine because of the placebo effect, which I've been studying a lot more, basically once your brain makes associations between certain things, doing certain things, it really makes it even more powerful, even if it's like really doing something. So I would imagine, do you see this? Like if people make a conscious decision that I'm gonna use this tool or this practice to either protect myself or raise my energy that the more they do it, does it become more effective?

Oliver Niño:
I've seen it, it's the crazy thing is I've seen things happen on the intention level. To where when somebody decides I'm going to do this before they even do it, things start to rearrange. I've seen it happen so many times. To where people that let's say they sign up for my, I've got these events that I do, then they say they sign up for my certification program. It's a two month program, right? They tell me before they even start the program, things happen. Purging happens, healing happens, and they're like, well, I don't know what's going on. I haven't even started with a content, but why are things happening already? Why are things shifting? Why are things healing? I've seen it happen so many times to where it's not an accident. To where when you consciously intend or make an intention of like, I'm going to change, I'm going to do this, all of a sudden things start working for you before you even take action. Because again, your intention carries a lot of weight in my experience to where when you set an intention, the universe, God, higher power starts working on it already before you can even do the human work. Because when you set an intention, the request is put forth by your soul. It's a soul request. Therefore, higher power is to be already working on the things that you need to work before you can start step one of your mental process.

Melanie Avalon:
With that change and that intuition surrounding all of it, how much knowledge is required by the person about where to focus with the healing? And what I mean by that is, so you talk in the book about the different chakras in the body and maybe you could touch on them briefly, but like what a person need to know that they specifically have a blockage or, you know, an issue they need to address in a specific chakra, or is it pretty intuitive? Like they can just do the things.

Oliver Niño:
Well, it depends. Like, you know, so a lot of the times, yes, I mean, you can be more like, gosh, like, you know, every time I walk in the room, you know, I feel uncomfortable and I feel, I feel in my stomach, then, you know, it's your, you know, it's your, you know, power center. If they're like, gosh, like, you know, every time, like, you know, I, you know, I am around people, I feel heavy in my heart, right? Or every time I'm thinking of opening up, I feel heavy in my heart. And then, you know, it's the heart chakra. Gosh, like, you know, every time I want to sign up for myself and speak my truth, like, you know, I can't have a tinkle in my throat, then, you know, it's a throat chakra. So some things like that are very obvious to where you can, you can really tell, like, you know, oh, wow, I've got negative self -talk coming up over and over again, then it's the ear chakras, right? So certain things like that, they're more obvious. Like, you know, when you kind of know what each chakra does and what it's related to, then, you know, kind of like when things come up, that is, it's more than likely, more, more likely than I connected to that. And then the other thing too is, as people get more intuitive and in tune, and it's one of the things that I teach in my certification programs is like, how do you scan for energy? How can you either know something is blocked or use your, your energy centers in your hands to kind of feel through and sense if something is blocked in your, your body or someone else's body, right? So there's different ways of doing it, whether it's like you just know, whether you have to kind of like scan with your hands and, and, and, and kind of find where the, the heat or the pressure or the, the kind of like the, the push is and when you're, when you're looking for blocks, so there's like, there's a lot of ways to do it, you know?

Melanie Avalon:
You talk in the book about, I found this so fascinating, the different spiritual gifts that people can have. So first of all, because you have a few that you said are the majority of the ones that you've seen in all of the sessions and things that you've done, are there a lot of other random gifts that only a few people have?

Oliver Niño:
Yeah, I mean, they're there. I mean, over time, like I've seen that there are gifts that come up at higher and different levels. Right? Because here's the thing is when, when, when I talk about the gifts, the book, like, you know, I talk about channel, transmitter, healer, psychic, Akashic records, you know, weather and technology, when I talk about those things in the book, those are the typical things that I've seen people have in common, like, they're like the baseline gifts, right? And the thing with how gifts work is, you know, there are more advanced gifts, but there's also more advanced versions of the current gifts that you have that are baseline, right? So if somebody can heal, for example, as they're a healer, they can heal, you know, can they heal one person, then it becomes can they heal a group, then can they heal thousands of people, not can they, can they heal by thinking about somebody, can they heal by being on some, when they're on someone's presence, like, you know, just their energy itself can heal, can they heal by looking, can they heal faster, right? There's like, all those different upgrades to the gift, the more that you practice it and the higher your vibration is. So gifts, you know, gifts can be like, literally, like, even one gift in itself, that's like, people are like, Oh, gosh, you know, I got this gift that everyone has, it can be it can be very, very deep. And the way that it's applied, the way that it shows up, like, and it can be different from one person to another, right? So there's that. And then there's, of course, as you master that, and all of a sudden, all these other gifts that, you know, wouldn't have showed up, start showing up, because you can you've handled the basic one. And, and that's the thing I learned with gifts is that they're not just, Oh, I have them, they're pretty cool. I know what they are. I'm special. Each gift comes with a, with a certain frequency, to where, once you learn that gift, it changes your life, all of a sudden, you know, you get called to a higher level, your energetic body gets upgraded, you might go through a purge in your life, like, you know, with old and with the new, it's a whole healing process, to where people that, you know, try to kind of accumulate them, you know, thinking that are just cool things to know, they don't realize that it comes with a commitment right? So where I'm telling people, like, hey, when you're learning about a gift, embrace it for three to six months, because it's gonna, it's gonna take all of you to adjust to get used to it to, to deal with what it takes to handle a gift, yet alone handle more than one in advance, right? So it does, it does require, you know, a lot of introspection, working on yourself, maintaining your vibration and, and realizing that, like, you know, it's like, I look at one gift, it can be like, hey, that's a, that's a lesson that you got to learn for a semester or two or more. To get really just not even great at it just to get used to it, right? So I'm very mindful, knowing that each gift is not just a gift, it comes with a certain frequency, right? To where if people are not used to or can't handle that frequency, sometimes it's very, you know, it's not, not of the best and the highest good for me to share things that can cause people to implode if they haven't been prepared for it, if that makes sense.  

Melanie Avalon:
I think listeners will find it really fascinating. And then if they identify with one of them, they can, you know, read the book and learn more about it. Can we just briefly talk about them? Cause we talked about the hands -on healing aspect. So channelers, what do they do?

Oliver Niño:
So you have channelers and they're the ones that were energy and information flows through them, right? They flows through them and they can be talking to a friend, you know, about nothing. And then, you know, their friend's soul makes it, you know, it's like almost like channels, they're responding to the needs of the individual in front of them. So if the person in front of them is in pain, needs some help, all of a sudden, you know, information flows through them and then afterwards the friend is like, wow, you, you know, that was such amazing information that was so healing. And they're like, I don't even know what I said, right? Because it wasn't them. It just, it just flowed through them. And they're so used to doing that and that they're, you know, they don't question it or they don't think anything of it, right? But for me, that's what channels are typically is like, they just have information or sometimes energy flowing through them and they're sharing that with people that they meet. And a lot of times you can't really control it at times where when there's the soul in front of you and you need a channel, you will channel. And if you, you know, and if you block it, then you get sick or you get a headache or you get, you know, you overheat or there's always different things that you experience. But channelers typically, yeah, information flows through them and it's best for them to be able to express it, whether they're writing it, they're, they're speaking it, you know, they're painting it, you know, they have to be able to express that information.

Melanie Avalon:
Okay, gotcha. Yeah, I wrote down that you said it's often writers and then people like Einstein and maybe Aristotle and I like the examples. So how does that compare to a transmitter?

Oliver Niño:
Yeah, so a transmuter, what they do is like a filter. Think of them as like, they can take heavy, dark energy and make it lighter or neutralize it, right? So they can be, let's say somebody is feeling depressed and they're feeling heavy in their heart and they're sitting next to somebody who's a transmuter. They don't even have to talk at all, right? Next thing you know, after 20, 30 minutes, the transmuter most of the time unconsciously do their thing and the other person feels lighter, feels happier. They're like, wow, I feel so much great around you. And you know, all you guys talked about is the french fries and the weather, right? And because underneath it all, you know, the transmuter is absorbing the energy. If you do it right, you're not absorbing it. You're doing it right. You're, you know, you have higher energy doing it for you. You're not drained. But for the most part, that's not what happens is like, transmuter have big heart. So they run it through their body. They run the energy through their body and they get tired, right? They get tired and it affects them and it can cause issues. And then they learn how to not run it through their body and they learn how to have a higher vibration and elevate it. And next thing you know, they're transmuting and they don't even know they're transmuting. It's not affecting them one bit, right? So transmuters that they kind of like cleanse other people's energies by being around them.

Melanie Avalon:
and this is what your son is.

Oliver Niño:
My son does that, yes, correct.

Melanie Avalon:
Going back to what we were talking about at the beginning, where I think people might sometimes have barriers to this concept, but what about psychics?

Oliver Niño:
Psychic is very broad, because if you think about like psychics, like you know, you have the Hollywood thing of like crystal ball and you're looking at a crystal ball and you're predicting someone's future. But psychic comes in different forms. It can be like you dream about, you know, you can be about dreaming about something and it comes true. It could be, you know, your third eye is open enough to where you look at people, you see color around them, or you can talk to or feel or communicate with those of the other side because, you know, your third eye can, you know, access that information or it can be, you know, it touches an object and you know things that happen with object, past, present, future. I mean, it's like, psychic is really broad, like and it even goes towards remote viewing to where people, and they've used this in the government in where they've classified a lot of these things to where there are people that they have hired and studied and learned from to where they can tell you exactly what's behind a certain location or what's going on and describe things to a T, other planets or from locations that they haven't even seen and describe everything down to the detail and be accurate. So that's also psychic. So when I say psychic, it's very, very broad as far as like what comes with that type, with that name, you know.

Melanie Avalon:
It's crazy timing. I actually last night was seeing it was a show. It was like a magician psychic with things like that. I wonder, he was absolutely incredible. His name was Peter Antony. I should know how to say his last name. He's on America's Got Talent. But I'm like, with that type of situation, I'm like, I wonder, is it all like smoke and mirror?

Oliver Niño:
It depends. I know a lot of mentalists, illusionists, psychics, and some of them are, some of them is sleight of hand, sleight of mouth. It's literally misdirection to where they will tell you how they do it, to where it is literally they're doing what's called cold reading to where they're looking at the body language, you're looking at the feedback, and they're saying truisms that people can be like, okay, that makes sense, that makes sense. I've seen that, and I've also seen people that will literally, and I have people that have gone through my course to where they would come up with coordinates, and they would come up with street signs that come up, and they would describe a location. Next thing you know, three days later in the news, they bust a house that was there that was for trafficking, and it was the exact coordinates, the exact streets, and the exact description, where you're like, you can't even make that up. And they do that, they find lost pets, they just find lost things, and they know things about another person, and they can name things specifically to a T, even if the person was not even there to give feedback at all. So I feel like, yes, there are some people who are extremely gifted, and there are some that are like, yeah, it is a little bit more of a gimmick of like, yeah, they're called illusion, you know, mentalists, like, you know, in the magicians, illusionists, to where they really study, you know, misdirection and sleight of hand and all that stuff, you know.

Melanie Avalon:
I want to know, it haunts me. And then, okay, so the records one, how do you say it?

Oliver Niño:
Akashic Records.

Melanie Avalon:
Yes, and so what is that? I had never heard of that before.

Oliver Niño:
So a Clash of Crackers is like, it's almost like people that I call them the know -it -alls. Like they have the access to the library of everything and anything. You can ask them about something and they just know it, right? And they're like, how do you know it? They're like, I don't know it. I just know it, right? They just do, right? And they're the ones to where, you know, they tap into, like Einstein had this, you know, when he talks about, he taps into the collective mind, right? To where, you know, a lot of, you know, great ideas are born from, but they exist there and people can tap into it and they create electricity. They create light, they create, you know, the things that we use now that are like, how do you even create that? They tap into a greater collective consciousness that already has all this information that has this blueprint and they can access it, right? And with that is like, it's, it's, it has again, a lot of different applications as well, because I've had people that had this gift and they know when earthquakes are about to happen, they know, like, you know, when there's going to be a fire, they know calamities, they know life and death. They can look at somebody and they know if somebody say, one of my friends, like, you know, a famous celebrity, like, you know, super Akashic, like she, she even told me like before there's an earthquake, you know, in her house, she wakes up five seconds before the earthquake happens, tells her husband, there's going to be an earthquake. Husband looks at her all like, what are you talking about? And then earthquake happens, right? To where they just know all this divine information, they've got access to it.

Melanie Avalon:
Does that overlap at all with people who affect the weather and electronics? Is that them literally affecting it versus knowing?

Oliver Niño:
They just know it. And then whether electronics, I mean, yeah, they could be overall, but they're like separate in and of itself, right? And I've seen them like literally like, you know, I mean, to the extremes to where I've seen it, to where when I'm doing healings on them, and this happened actually recently, we were in California, I was doing a healing on two gals and one of them, that was her gift. And as I was doing it, they started healing in California or it never heals, right? And I've seen it happen so many times to where it's like, it doesn't matter where we are, if I'm working on somebody, and their gift is whether in electronics, it could be sunny, all of a sudden, it's going to rain out of nowhere as I'm working on them. And when it's done, it's done. And it's happened so many times with people that are like, it's their first time getting healing or, you know, they've never heard of it. And my team members are just like, yep, we've seen this happen so many times to where you just, there's just no denying that it's just a coincidence. Because if it happens every single time, I'm working with somebody that that's their gift, right? And because of the emotional release or the healing that occurs in a rapid pace, it affects whether it's lights that are flashing, technology is malfunctioning, or the weather, all of a sudden does something that's completely different. I've seen it happen so many times to where I'm like, okay, it's just part of the process, you know?

Melanie Avalon:
And what do those actual sessions look like? Like it's hard for me to picture. So like when you do like a one -on -one session with somebody, is it talking to them? Like, what does it look like?

Oliver Niño:
Well, it's interesting because I actually don't do one -on -ones. It's funny. Oh, okay. Yeah. So most of the time when I'm doing work, it's like, you know, we have 1000 people, 3000, like our biggest event at 15 ,000 people online, right? So I'm doing mostly group work, because that's how I'm able to reach more, right? So when I'm doing one -on -ones, they're very, like, it's a friend or, you know, it's a friend or a family friend, or it's a Tony Robbins or a or a potential family. And the reason why I do one -on -ones, typically, there's a trade -off. If they can help or they can reach or they can impact millions of people, then I do one -on -one with them, because I'm not working with one person. I'm working with a million. That makes sense, because through their energy, they're affecting a million. So for me, it kind of, like, checks off the whole ripple effect in my mind of, like, by working with them, I reach more people. Whether it's, like, you know, whether it's in the forefront or the background, that's kind of, like, how I look at it from an energetic point of view. But if I'm working on one -on -one or on a group, they're the same. I typically don't ask questions, right? I explain to them what they might experience and then they're laying down there and I'm doing my work. I'm doing my work. It's quiet, like, you know, I'm maybe 20 minutes, maybe an hour, but I'm, like, I'm removing energetic blocks, like, you know, an energetic body. Like, you know, I'm activating spiritual gifts, you know, I'm working on, you know, their mentally, their emotional, their physical, like, whatever is needed. And then afterwards, like, you know, they share with me the crazy experience that they've had and what's different, you know, where the pain has gone or they've gone through this crazy experience, right? And I share with them what I did as well. So it's a very, it's a very, we're not talking, I don't need, I don't need context. I don't need, I don't need a, I mean, some people do and I'm like, okay, if they, if they do, am I sure? But 95% of the time when I'm doing these one ones, there is no, that there's not them saying, I want to work on my broken heart or I want to work on this because I got a divorce. It's like, literally, it's like I try to get as least amount of information as possible and just let the energy do the talking because the thing is people might say, I want to work on this, right? But then energetically, when I'm, when I'm tapping into energy, the energy of the body doesn't lie. I'll know exactly what they actually need and more, and I work on that. And then, and also, you know, work on the things that they're, they're wanting to, but I'm working on also what they need that they didn't even know they needed to get worked on. Right? So when I do that, like, you know, typically that's kind of like how the sessions are is like explaining to them how it is. I do the work afterwards. They, you know, I share what I did and they share with me the, you know, what they've experienced. And for the most part, like the magic of the sessions, aren't even, even though people have had wild, like, you know, wild experiences in during sessions to where like, you know, you've had people have had, you know, several surgeries, couldn't move their, couldn't move their arms past a certain radius. And the next thing you know, after the healing in front of everybody else, they can touch, they can, they can do, you know, 90 degrees and they're like, I've never been able to do that. Right? So I've seen those like one off, like, kind of like, wow, that's crazy things when I'm doing healings. But for the most part, 90 to 95% of the results come in after a week or two. Like, it's like, it's like, things happen so quick on the energetic level, but when it comes to human time, it's like, it's a little slower how it unfolds. It affects your dreams, affects your sleep, affects who, what shows up opportunities that show up in your life, you know, people that, you know, show up to be, to be further, you can know, you know, you're working your boundaries with them. Like out with the old and with the new, like, there's a lot of things that happen within a one to two week period. And only a fraction of them, of it gets, you know, realized during the actual session itself. All the people have had crazy sessions of like, oh my gosh, typically a majority of the, of, of the results happen after.

Melanie Avalon:
And the actual role of language in that, and then just in general, what is the role of language? Because some people are all about language and positive affirmations.

Oliver Niño:
Not needed. Not needed. Because I've had people that are completely skeptical. They're like, it didn't work. I didn't feel anything. And then they call back four days later, it's like, oh my gosh, you're not gonna believe it. So for me, it's like, the mind doesn't need to believe it. The emotions don't need to be on board in it. You can be completely skeptical. I've had people like literally take my workshops with, and they're up there in the front, taking pages and pages of notes. And I'm thinking to myself, wow, they're really into it. And they come clean to me after the event saying, you know what, I came to this workshop to disprove it. I'm skeptical. Like, you know, this girl worked as a high level executive in PayPal, and she was like the most left brain, scientific, skeptical person you can think of. And they literally came in there with the intention of disproving everything. And at the end, they're like, I tried, but there's just so many synchronicities and so many signs and so many things that have come to me and I feel better and this and that to where I'm like, I don't know how, but it's true. And I'm like, okay. So I've seen it to where the mind fights it, your emotions fight it, it doesn't matter. If your intention is there and you're open -minded and you're at least showing up, it counts more than you think.

Melanie Avalon:
So say on the flip side from the people who start out really skeptical, so the people who are all about it and all into it, what is the role? Because you talk about in the book at one point how you can do these sort of like impromptu or short clearings, but then you also say that you limit yourself because you realized at one point that they were becoming a little bit fear -based. So how can we have a healthy relationship with feeling the need to do these things but not have like a fear -based relationship or feel like we have to do it 24 -7?

Oliver Niño:
Well, it depends because it's definitely a cycle. At the very beginning, I mean, I was all in. Three months, six months, doing it every single day. And at the beginning, it doesn't really matter. It's hard to not do it fear -based at the beginning because if I look at the difference between, let's say somebody's been swimming in negativity all their life and they don't know who they are without it, right? And what gets them to move at the beginning is fear -based. Like if you think about it, if somebody gets diagnosed with a terminal illness, what gets them to move and do the things that they need to do to fix it is fear -based at times. I don't want to die, right? So a lot of times, the fear, I don't really, there's two ways I look at it. At times, I look at it as it gets you to move and it becomes your teacher. And then once you're moving, it stops becoming the fuel that gets you to move. And you start moving from higher fuel. That makes sense, right? So it's one of the things to where at the beginning, like everybody at one point in time has been moved by fear. If they stay moved by fear, I think that's where the issue is. But if they're able to like, okay, I'm in a better place, but now I'm not moved by fear, I'm moved by craving a better life. I'm moved by the love I have with my family. I'm moved by the love I have for myself. Then all of a sudden, the fear is replaced by love and you're fine, right? So again, I'm not typically like, it's not very black and white because the thing is even fear can elevate and transmute to where it's neutral, right? And then when you learn a lesson from it and you don't rely on it and you understand sometimes like, hey, you can't help it sometimes since we live in a humanistic world, like you might be triggered, you may be angry, you may be hurt, you might be fear, but you don't live there. You acknowledge the pattern, you see it come up, you love yourself through it in spite of what you're going through, right? And then you elevate, right? So I feel like the least amount of time we can stay fueled by fear, the better. If you're in a fear, you're knowing how to dip out of that or to raise above it, the better. But most importantly, not beating ourselves up in the moments where we do get consumed by fear for a second because when you beat yourself up for feeling fear, it spirals you lower. But when you accept yourself, you love yourself, you realize, okay, I'm feeling fear, I got it. I'll allow myself through it. This too shall pass, it's only human. Next thing you know, granting yourself grace and gentleness in those times of matter is exactly what you need.

Melanie Avalon:
Yeah, I think for me personally, that was or has been a big blockage or challenge for me was not so much the fear, but then once I started getting afraid of the fear, that's like the spiral.

Oliver Niño:
It is a spiral because at the very beginning when I was cutting cords and I was doing protections. Yeah, was it fear -based? Sure But the benefit of protecting myself and clearing energy and next thing you know 80% of the weight that I was feeling was gone and I could think and I could feel now I'm like I'm feeling better and Then now since I'm feeling better. I'm on a higher vibration next thing, you know I'm not feeling things as much because I'm on a higher vibration. I'm protected therefore. I don't have this Need this fear to keep protecting because now I'm feeling better the next thing, you know You're doing it less and less and next thing, you know, you know You're you know, it's it's you work on yourself a lot to where you're not driven by fear You're still doing protection, but it's not by fear anymore It's for it's for a different fuel love for yourself or you know love for your family you don't want to come across as a Bad version of yourself or a hurtful version of yourself. So you do it out of love of them So now the fuel changes and but but then again, it's kind of I look at it as like the ripple effect Right. Sometimes it it starts With an emotion that you don't really want but as long as you can elevate it you can learn from it You can bounce it back from it, right? You don't live there. You can love yourself despite it. You'll be fine Right because I'm not really too Particular with how it starts more mostly what you do with it

Melanie Avalon:
Speaking to that ripple effect and the future of everything and now and where we are now, do you think the ripple effect of making change for the better positively with raising vibrations and you know all of this healing, like could it ever take over the world or do you think we'll always be the always be both sides?

Oliver Niño:
Absolutely. I mean, if you think about it, right, I think we, as individuals, we've just given our power away and we've forgotten who we are and we've forgotten what runs within us. If you look at the history, whether it's the Jesus or the Buddha or the Dalai Lama or, you know, or whoever, think of anyone who has impacted the world or a huge amount of people in a deep way, right? That is an individual who chose to shine and express their light, you know, at the highest levels, an individual, and they can affect billions, right? Can you imagine what would happen if everybody, 10%, 1% of the world did that, right? Then it's too much light to where we would be in a very different place. I mean, ideally, oh, everybody would do that, but you don't need a lot to do it. You don't need a lot because we're forgetting how potent we are. You know what I mean? You literally are forgetting what we have running within us. And once we realize and step into that, you know, you'll see people that are powerful wake up other people just by mere embodiment and potency, right? So I feel like people, you know, at times they don't realize the, you know, that what we have running within us and how, you know, how even if just a few of us, you know, shine our light and embody it at the highest levels, it can change the world as it already has in the past.

Melanie Avalon:
How do you think AI will affect all of this?

Oliver Niño:
Well, it depends because literally the way I look at it is it could be AI, it could be cigarettes, it could be alcohol, it could be TV, it could be EMF, it could be Wi -Fi, it could be something human -made, but I don't live by human law, the answer to divine law. It's what I'm powered by. That's what I choose to live my life by to where I don't really worry about all the humanistic external stuff because I know that I answer and play by higher and different laws, right? It doesn't mean that I'm not doing my best to understand how they can affect me or slow me down, right? But the way I look at things is whether it's people are like, hey, you know, social media is bad for you. I'm like, eh, social media is like money. It depends on, you know, what you want to use it for, right, to where social media, I can consume it or I can use it to spread light. Either way, it's a distribution point, whereas if I look at AI, sure, AI is AI, right? It can be used to keep people in the dark or it can be used for a tool to empower and enlighten. I just use, I just see him as vehicles, right? So when you start looking at what you think may be dark and I don't have any control that maybe I don't even know if the intention behind it may be dark. It doesn't matter what it is, but if it's something that's a tool, then if it can be used for darkness, it can be used for light the way I look at it, right? So a lot of it is realizing that there's more to one part of the story.

Melanie Avalon:
That resonates with me so much. I feel the exact same way about social media because people often talk about how like we're victims of social media and it's all set up to be this algorithm to just, you know, to destroy you basically. And I'm like, my social media, I mean, I use it to create the content that I love and share about the show. And then my homepage is basically just like Taylor Swift videos.

Oliver Niño:
Yeah, you're like my sister, I've got four sisters, we're five in the family, so the middle child sister is like a big Taylor Swift fan, she's one of the only ones I follow on TikTok, and literally I follow five people, and my feed is all Taylor Swift, and I'm like, come on, right? But she loves it, and it raises her vibration, and it elevates her to where I'm like, go do you, right?

Melanie Avalon:
So funny, I love that. But yeah, I just I really love kind of having like an anti victimhood stance today, like just giving people agency to, to take charge of their lives and which is really what you're doing with this book. And I can't thank you enough. I think people will learn so much and be so empowered. And I mean, it's really incredible. And thank you again, you invited me to a session that you had in LA and I so wish I could have gone. So I'm going to have to go to one of these in the future for sure. So for listeners, the book is spiritual activator. How can people best follow your work if they want to do some of your programs? What links would you like to put out there?

Oliver Niño:
Yeah, I mean, a lot of it is I put a lot of my best stuff on social. So Instagram is spiritual activator. I'm very active on all socials. And then my book, you can get it at spiritualactivator .com. And when you do that, you're, you know, immediately you're on our email list. And then a lot of our events are invite only. So when you're in the list, you know, you get notified when we have the next one. And then that's typically how we've done it. Yeah, I mean, it's exciting because a lot of the best stuff, the way I look at it is I know, my goal is most mostly the impact and wrapping the world with that impact. So I know not everyone's going to very, very few people are going to buy my book or go to my programs very, very few. So that's why I go almost like an overdrive on creating and putting my best stuff out there for free. Because I, for me, when I'm doing a video, when I'm writing something, I know that that might be my only interaction with somebody and I only have that amount of time to change their life. Right? So that's why I put a lot of my best stuff out there for free to people like you know, people have, can just browse and they can impact their life positively. So the best probably place is just my social media. If you watch my videos and Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, it will lift your, you know, it will not only lift your vibration, but it will give you techniques, you know, that you can use to consistently protect your energy, clear energy, raise your vibration and step into a better life.

Melanie Avalon:
I love that so much and I've loved following your social media and it makes its way. Like I said, there's like all Taylor Swift, but your stuff makes its way into my algorithm. So I really love it and I appreciate it. So actually the last question that I ask every single guest on this show, and it is because I am so appreciative of the importance of mindset in everybody's lives. So what is something that you're grateful for?

Oliver Niño:
Right now, I am grateful for just the amount of momentum and creativity and energy that's flowing in my life. Because a lot of times, even I go through seasons, everybody goes through seasons. You go through a season where you're like, you can create because you've recharged and you can go, go, go. And you just have enough fuel to not only climb the mountain, but move the mountain. And then there's sometimes when you're tired, you're resting, you're recuperating, you're rejuvenating, you're being with everything and your body just needs to rest, rejuvenate, heal. And I love both, but for me, I'm a bigger fan of the creation, momentum, and the fueled space. And I happen to be there right now, so I'm super excited and grateful for that.

Melanie Avalon:
I love that answer and that really resonates with me too because I think it's wonderful to understand that we have phases of our lives because I think people can get distressed at the idea of being in one phase versus another but it's really wonderful to be in what you're speaking to so I'm so happy for you and I'm so, so grateful for all of the work that you're doing. I can't wait for listeners to check it all out so thank you so much for your time Oliver and all that you're doing. It's really changing the world so I can't thank you enough.

Oliver Niño:
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate you

Melanie Avalon:
Have a good rest of your day. You too. Bye.