The Melanie Avalon Biohacking Podcast Episode #265 - Susan Bratton

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Growing up in a religious household

Abstinence and fear based sex education

Can we have too much sex?

Types of orgasms

Enteroception

Translating great masturbation to great sex

Pleasure tools to activate your entire yoni

The three clitoral structures

Supplements to support longevity and libido

Vaginal toning

Sexual biohacking vs regenerative tools

Phthalates

CBD melts

Foria

Anal Sex

Incorporating toys into partnered sex

Sex life bucket list

Erectile dysfunction

TRANSCRIPT

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Melanie Avalon:
Friends, welcome back to the show. I am so incredibly excited about the conversation I am about to have. It is such a long time coming. So the backstory on today's conversation, I first met this woman. I don't actually know if you remember this season. So I met you first at Dave Astry's biohacking conference two years ago. And I think I'm pretty sure we met at the VIP party. And I don't think we knew at the time who the other person was, but I definitely like met you and talked to you and you were awesome and had this incredible vibe. And then later, then I realized who you were. And I saw you like in all the talks, and I really dived into your work. And I realized all of this incredible stuff you were doing surrounding sexual health and wellness and empowerment in our bodies. And it's really, truly incredible. And I knew I just had to have you on the show. And I since have seen you at the more recent biohacking conference, which was absolutely amazing as well. I've dived into a lot of your books, you have so many resources out there. It was funny, I was looking at everything. I was like, what do I read? Like, what do I explore? I ended up reading your sexual soul mates book and your dirty talk book. Oh, I know those are sweet, aren't they? I know. It's so funny. I guess it kind of shows because you have like all these different books. It kind of shows what you gravitate towards. So I was like, I want to read the dirty talk one. So I am, I ordered it. And then also we were talking about this, it's been like sexual Christmas for me because you've sent me all of these incredible products to try. And I'm so, so excited to learn more about them and share them with listeners. And, and I just want to start off with some gratitude for what you're doing because and we can talk about this, but at least for me personally, I was raised in a very religious background. And so there was a lot of shame surrounding sex. And so I felt very siloed from that part of myself for a long time. And it was really, really interesting for me to enter that world and work on removing a lot of the shame. And then on top of that, just having a paradigm shift and really seeing sex, not only as how can we optimize it for pleasure and well being, but also for, you know, health and, and sexual lifespan and sex span and all of these things. And you're just really doing a lot of really incredible work and answering questions that people have. So, so thank you for being here. I'm so excited to talk to you.

Susan Bratton:
Well, we've been working toward this for a while, darling. Yeah, I really enjoyed doing that keynote at the biohacking conference on sexual biohacking. That was so much fun when we got the Play -Doh out, and I made everyone make a penis, which is basically just a tube. Then I said, now we're going to turn it into a clitoris, because I want you to understand that all that tissue inside your male -bodied partner's penis is inside your vulva. It's not just that little tip of the clitoris that is what's in there. I just loved doing that. When I said to Dave, I want to bring 700 cans of Play -Doh, many Play -Doh cans to the conference, and have people turn a penis into a clitoris. Are you cool with that? He's like, okay, how many people will, you better bring a thousand.

Melanie Avalon:
So funny. I was in that room and actually my, when I go to these conferences, I'm really bad. I actually don't go to a lot of the speakers. I mostly hang out in the tech room and the parties. I think that, I think your keynote there was maybe like the only one I went to. And it was great. I saw all the Play -Doh.

Susan Bratton:
say one thing about how I grew up. So, I mean, I'm one of those people that I've been a sex expert for decades now. And, you know, I'm not a sexologist. I'm not a therapist. I don't sit in a room and work out a person's problems. What I am is more the opposite of that. Like, yes, I can give a lot of people advice about how to manage trauma healing and, you know, all of those kinds of things, but it's not what I do. What I do is where I write passionate lovemaking techniques and bedroom communication skills, and I write about the latest advances in intimate wellness. So, I'm always writing about regenerative therapies and sexual biohacking. And I know you want me to explain that, which I'll parking lot that. We'll get back to that. But if I had a nickel for every time a person has said to me, well, in my family, we never talked about sex, or I grew up in a religious culture, or I never had a name for my genitals, or I never saw my parents, you know, I don't, I mean, I know they had sex once, because I'm here, you know, like that, that kind of thing. And everything kind of feels like they missed out. And I am here to say that that's how almost everyone feels, that your experience is the norm. And I try to let people know that. And this is one of the reasons why I'm so like, you can find me with biohackers. And that's, and you can find me with people who do the work personal growth, people who are personal growth mindset or sexual biohacking mindset or biohacking mindset. And also bodybuilders strength trainers, those are three big groups of people who like what I do, it resonates with them. Because if they're the people who are always optimizing themselves, and they realize that their sexuality is just another aspect of optimizing their life. And the thing is that we in our world, and it's worse everywhere else. But right now on the globe, we have a lot of religious repression, we have abstinent abstinence based sex education, we have fear based sex education, you'll get pregnant, I'll stay away, you know, like all that kind of stuff, rather than teaching women about safe and good for you contraception, like IUDs, non medicated IUDs, fertility awareness method, things like that. And it well, I always say to people, it really wasn't your parents job to teach you more than the basics. It's your job as a part of your personal growth and your self development to keep learning about sex. Because your sex life, if you put your intention on it, if you have an intentional journey, it can keep getting better your whole life long. I turned 63 last week, and I'm having the hottest sex of my life. I've never been sexier. My orgasms have never been better. My dirty talk game is legendary. I mean, it's just, I just want people to know that even if they've never had support, if you're listening to us right now, you are doing what you need to do, which is opening your mind to the amazing patiply of pleasures that await you when you pursue your intimate pleasure and connection. And that's really my thing is there's so much porn out there. There's so much like bad sex in media and the movies that is very patriarchal, very religiously repressed and male centric. And what I like to do is I like to teach people how to transform having sex into making love. And that's very matriarchal. That's very feminine focused. And so we'll get into that. I know you want to talk about everything from my sexy talk and dirty talk to some of the six essentials of connected sex, which is great. I like the things that you've chosen to discuss with me. But your orgasmic potential right now in your thirties as an example, you are barely scratching the surface of the pleasure you will have in the future if you stay on the journey of learning.

Melanie Avalon:
First of all, happy late birthday. Thank you. That is so, so lovely. I love, you know, this focus on how it's never too late and, and the potency and the power of it. And you actually, in one of your books, you were talking about a study they did where people were guessing ages and the people who looked 10 years younger were the ones that were having sex three times a week. And of course, it's hard to know if it's correlation or causation or correlation, but I do think we see a lot of studies on health span, lifespan, correlating to, you know, sexual activity. I know for me personally, you know, you're talking about how a lot of us were raised in a similar way. And I felt like once my eyes were opened, I did have this feeling almost of like, oh, it's I'm doing like I'm such a late bloomer. Like I'm, it's, you know, there's time I have to make up for here. So it's nice to hear that, you know, we can jump in at any point and really explore things. And one of my personal favorite practices, I actually learned this when I interviewed Stephanie Estema. She had a, like a seven day orgasm challenge. So I did that and then I never, I turned it, and then I turned it into an everyday orgasm challenge. So, so I have to have an orgasm every day as part of like my health, honestly, which speaking of, we did have a question about this, I'll go ahead and read it. And then I'll save some of these questions for a rapid fire at the end. Andrea, she wanted to know, she said recently, one of my guests, and I'm not sure who she's talking about. It might have been John Gray, it might have been Dave, I'm not sure. She said, one of your guests said it's possible for men to have too much sex, but the same isn't true for women. I'm not sure he elaborated regarding the reason though. So just as a foundational place to start, can we have too much sex with all of this or too many orgs?

Susan Bratton:
It was probably Dave, Dave Asprey we're talking about. Dave benefits from semen retention. When you think about sexuality, it is a bell curve, statistical bell curve. There are people who want sex every day and they're energized by it and it makes them feel good and it calms their nervous system and it gives them oxytocin boost and all of those kinds of things. By the way, when I say sex, a lot of people think intercourse. But I think that's a very patriarchal, religious -oriented perspective and I'm not saying religion is bad. What I'm saying is that religion says sex is for procreation only, a lot of religions do. Sex is for procreation only and I don't agree with that. I think that sex has so many physical and emotional benefits that we really need to have a lot of sex, but by sex, what I mean is things like holding and being held, stroking and massaging each other, kissing and loving each other, generating oxytocin, having orgasms and calming our nervous systems and rebooting our nervous systems, having a cascade of neurotransmitters that are serotonin and dopamine, not just oxytocin, that make us feel good, leveraging our healing pathways of the endocannabinoid system. And we'll get back to some endocannabinoid system stuff. I do want to talk to you about that today with regard to Foria, which is a company that I'm a spokesperson for because I went to them and I said, I want to tell everyone about your products because they're a vital part of your sexual health and sexual biohacking. So when you think about a bell curve and you think about sex, a lot of times people are thinking intercourse and they're thinking, oh, how often should I have it? And some of the studies say, you know, once a week is a nice thing to kind of shoot for, but it doesn't mean you have to have intercourse. What it means is that you need to have touch and connection, even if it's just with yourself through solo pleasuring. And for human bodies, we have over 20 kinds of orgasms we could have. There's three different categories. There's locations to touch like clitoral, vaginal, breast gasms, you know, prostate, penis, things like that. There are techniques such as G -spot awakening and female ejaculation and the expanded orgasm or orgasmic meditation practice, erotic hypnosis. These are literally techniques where you follow a very specific structure that elicits a very specific response. And the third kind is objects of desire, such as it could be anything. It could be, you know, BDSM kinds of things, you know, sensation deprivation of putting a mask, you know, a mask over your eyes so that you feel more in your body because your visual acuity is limited. It could be sex toys, which I like to call sex tools because we're going to get into orgasmic activation. And I really want to teach your listeners about orgasmic cross -training because you currently are, you're doing your orgasm a day. And there's all different tools that create different types of orgasms so that when you're with a partner, you orgasm more confidently, more easily, more frequently, more intensely from a wider variety of stimulation. So when you think about sex, if you don't think about it as intercourse, and you think about it as like all kinds of fun things you can do, mutual masturbation or pleasuring, anal sex, intercourse, you know, anything, using toys together, all kinds of things, that's one thing. And then the second thing is that men tend to think about sex and orgasm as an ejaculatory release because our culture has taught men that they ejaculate when they orgasm. Those are actually two very separate systems in the body. Going back to the Play -Doh where we have as much erectile tissue in our vulva or our yoni, I like to call it, the Y -O -N -I, yoni is a tantric lovemaking word for our entire female urogenital system, not just the tip of the lid or the canal through which we menstruate and have babies and a penis or toy goes in. We have, when we, for example, experience female ejaculation, we release our feminine waters and sometimes we feel the orgasmic response and sometimes we feel just this release because they're separate systems in the body. Well, they're separate systems in the body with men as well as penis owners, male bodies as well. And yet, because guys think there's one path to orgasm and this is what happens, when they ejaculate, some man on that bell curve, it exhausts them, it lowers their energy, it taps down their desire. And Dave's personal experience, I've known him for over a decade, I know him very well. And I've heard him talk about this a hundred times. His refractory period and his sensations and his body make it such that if he ejaculated every day, he would have lower sex drive and diminishment of pleasure. Other men have no problem with that at all. When you think about all people on a bell curve, there are many men who have lots and lots and lots of full body energy orgasms and don't ejaculate. There are men who ejaculate and it depletes them to the point where they literally feel depressed and they cry. So you have to understand, and as you change, as your stress levels go up and down, as your sleep goes up and down, as all of the things that hit you in your life make you feel more energy or less energy, your mitochondrial depletion, all those things. Sunshine you're getting, you know, like everything impacts that. Sometimes you're hornier than other times, and then you've got your hormones, testosterone, et cetera. So, which we could talk about later too. And so when you think about how often should I have sex, you have to ask yourself, well, what does sex mean? I should get hugged and held every day. I should have an orgasm if I want to. I could have an orgasm with or without ejaculation. I could have a whole bunch of ejaculatory orgasms. I could have full body orgasms. I could have orgasms from this stimulation versus that stimulation. It makes me feel happier. It makes me feel depleted. It makes me feel this way or that way. And those things are not fixed. They're variable over time. And so there's never an answer. It's always your own. And here's a really important word that comes back, especially for women who often say, I don't know what I want. I just know what I'm getting is an it about sex, is anteroception. We have many senses and sex is a sensual experience. We use our senses, the aural, the moaning, the pillow talk, the sexy stories, the sharing fantasies to the seeing of our lover's body, their genitals, sexy lingerie, doing photo shoots or filming each other and filming your lovemaking and watching it later to blindfolding and feeling more sensation. The smells, the sounds, the music we play, the satin sheets, the lights up or down, whatever it might be, those are all sensual experiences. And anteroception is one of our senses. And that is the sense of what am I feeling in my body? Does this feel good? We all know when we have to fart and we're holding it in and we're gassy, that's anteroception. We also know when something is being touched too strong or it's scratchy or we want more sensation or we're needing to take a break and take a rest. And so especially for women getting in touch with what they're feeling in their body because their body is always talking to them and then learning and getting the confidence to speak to their partner, if they're lucky enough to have a partnership, to speak to their partner and have the ability to say, I don't like that, that doesn't feel good, can we stop, I'm complete or I want more or go higher or press deeper or whatever it is. I want you in further or not so fast or slow down or that's scratching me or whatever it is. That anteroception is very, very important and it goes to frequency. But I'll leave it with one last thing I want to say too, Melanie, and thank you for letting me kind of go on for a minute about it because there's depth to these conversations, which I love about your show. You allow for depth. Women generally, and some of you have heard this, you might have heard this spoken about before. I did not make this up but it is a brilliant component of understanding our sexuality is that generally, and everything's on that bell curve, generally, men are more ready to go, they have fast acting hemodynamics, they have nighttime erections if they're healthy, they wake up with morning wood, they have a big bolus of testosterone, they'll just drop, drown, go for it a lot of times if they're healthy. And that's called a spontaneous desire. They're ready to go. Where women are more... responsive in our desire and we're not thinking about having sex all the time. Yeah, we do, but we're not ready to go. We need sex to be initiated, but we need it to be initiated with small offers for pleasure. Would you like a foot rub? Would you like me to rub pain cream into your neck? Would you like to hug and hold for a while? Would you like to lie down and I'll rub anything you want and you can tell me about your day? Would you like me to hold you in a soulmate embrace? These are the kinds of things that we can say yes to that will help us become turned on, because women beat themselves up over how they look. What's wrong? Everything's wrong with their body because Esther makes them judgy because they have to keep themselves safe because they're prey, not predators. They think they're supposed to have men's arousal and response cycles, and they don't, but they think they're broken. Then their partner thinks they're broken and then it ruins their sex life. I am here to tell you that women need much smaller offers and that sex should not always just be straight to intercourse because it takes women 20 to 30 minutes to achieve the full erectile capacity that makes any kind of sex feel good that men can get to in two or three minutes.

Melanie Avalon:
I love this, there's so much here where to go from here. Yeah, I'm definitely the type that I love the anticipatory flirtatious dance and build up and everything. And I probably need to reframe this, but in my head, it's almost to the point where I so like the anticipation and the lead up that it feels like when you actually have the physical moment of contact, I'm like, oh, well, now the party's over, which I need to reframe majorly.

Susan Bratton:
Well, it could be that the the actual physical components are not what you're not getting what you really need for it to get even better as you get into touch.

Melanie Avalon:
Yeah, that's highly possible. And also, I think, going back to that, you know, nightly orgasm. So I feel like for me, I know how to do that. I know how that works. So it's a little bit scary to scary or can seem not as quite certain to open that up to more happening from a partner compared to like with with my usual tactics, if that makes sense. Can you say that again? Yes. So basically, I exist in a state where I'm really good with my go to methods of orgasming every night and the toys I use and all the things. So if I'm actually with a person, for me, it's like I still want to just use my normal methods and toys just with that other person. It's scary to maybe give over some of that agency to the other person instead of my like go to methods.

Susan Bratton:
Okay, yeah, this is how most women feel. You are really expressing how other women feel in so many ways. So there's a couple of myths. So first of all, what's going on is that you basically have one or two pathways to orgasm from very specific kinds of stimulation that are kind of guaranteed to get you off, give you an orgasm. And that is how we all start. And where you go from here is, so let's talk about orgasmic activation and orgasmic cross -training. Let's talk about desensitization and sensitization. And then let's talk about how you can move from being worried about not being able to get off of the partner through stimulation to it being even easier than it's ever been. So, and if I thought this was just you, I'd gloss over it, but it's literally everybody. I mean, it's almost everybody. There's some women who are like, no, no, no, it's way better for me with my partner's penis inside me. That's their one way.

Melanie Avalon:
me. Okay, okay. Because I have heard I when I hear that from the occasional girlfriend, I'm like, I don't understand. Wait, what?

Susan Bratton:
That's the pathway they figured out. So one of my girlfriends, Dr. Nan Wise, she is a neuroscientist sexologist and she wrote a book called Why Good Sex Matters. And she put people, she put women in MRIs and mapped where the brain lit up when you touch different parts of the yoni. A member of using yoni as both internal and external areas of the genital system. So I'm taking that all into consideration. And essentially what she also figured out is that you could physically touch those locations or you could imagine those locations being touched and it lights up the brain, which is interesting. Then, so I read this study about 41 women who were touched in different areas, nipples, outer labia, clitoral tip, in the vestibule, the inner labia, inside the inner labia. And in the vagina, in the entroidal sphincter, the opening to the vagina and inside the vagina. And then they were asked to describe the sensation that they felt. And across the board, these women, basically if you read all the verbatims, it fit into four categories. They felt pain, they felt shame, a feeling. They felt numb or they felt pleasure. 50% of the women, approximately 50% of the women felt pleasure in the vagina. 40% felt pleasure in the clitoris. And then all the other ones, very, very small percentages of pleasure elsewhere. So I thought, well, that's really weird. And then I thought, well, generally, because everyone thinks sex is intercourse, probably women weren't even being touched on their clitoris. And so they were only ever being penetrated. And they got some pleasure out of that. And so they thought that was the pleasurable location. When the clitoris, and by the way, new news, the clitoris, we used to think it had 8 ,000 nerve endings. It has 10 ,000, because the 8 ,000 was actually a study on pigs. Thank you so much for actually studying women's bodies in the year 2020. X, X, X, X, X. Jeez, oh, Pete's. So the thing is that the clitoris is wonderful. And for many women, they're like the only place I can have an orgasm is direct clitoral stimulation. And I say, no, that's the only place you can have it so far. So literally, every single part of your yoni is as orgasmic as the other places. Once you begin to develop the neural pathways from your yoni to your brain, your biggest sex organ, now you're like, oh, wow, this labial vibrator is giving me incredible orgasms. They're different than the ones I get from my clitoris, but they're just as pleasurable. Oh, wow, this thruster I'm putting inside my vagina is giving me orgasms that are as good as the orgasms from the other thing that works well for me, whatever it is. It doesn't matter. You have massive fault tolerant, redundant, multi parallel processing signals of pleasure to your brain. But there's one thing that's missing. And the one thing that's missing is that you have to become engorged. Engorged means erect. And sex and by sex, it's usually intercourse is so rushed because he's hard and he's ready to go. So you throw some lube on there and he penetrates you. And then he ejaculates and maybe you've had an orgasm, maybe you haven't. But you never even got your lady boner. You never even got your lady erection because it's been over before your 20 minutes or 30 minutes that you had time to get this. When couples talk to me and they say, you know, she doesn't want to have sex with me anymore and I can't figure out how to get her to, I say, well, go back to yoni massages. Start giving her unlimited yoni massages with no expectation for intercourse. Get her tissue to the point where and get her a blood flow supplement. So you and I both share something in common, Melanie, and that is we both have supplement formulations. And my top selling product is a blood flow supplement called Flow. It's a nitric oxide booster made from, I'm a whole food derived kind of gal. I want mother nature's nutrients wherever possible. So this is from organic watermelon rind, organic sour cherries, organic spinach. And that's what our body needs to actually create the nitric oxide that moves the blood from our feet, our head, our wherever, our heart, our gut into our pelvic bowl so that we can send the blood down into all those nooks and crannies, the play dough penis I talked about earlier, that then floods our tissue with blood and lubrication because the vagina is not a gland. It doesn't self -lubricate. It's a muscle. It squeezes babies out, it squeezes penises or bildos. And what's interesting about it is that the vaginal mucosal lining, the blood plasma seeps through there and that's what gives us lubrication. So it takes us time to get the blood down into all the nooks and crannies. Once it's down in there and it plumps up, then we have more surface areas sending massive amounts of signals to our brain. And as we start to stimulate and cross train these different areas, we become way more easily orgasmic and orgasmic from different types of stimulation such that when we get with a partner, we just orgasm more easily. The blood flows in there faster. We're more confident. We're more relaxed about ourselves. We know we're going to have orgasms. We like lots of stimulation. It doesn't require that one thing for us to get off. And the best way to do this is to solo pleasure using these different tools. And there's eight types of tools for women and four types for the male body. And I have this. We're going to put this on your page, melanieavalon .com slash sexy, right?

Melanie Avalon:
right? Yes. So for listeners, because we're going to talk about a lot of incredible products and things people can get to optimize all of this. So go to melanieavalon .com slash sexy, it'll all be there and codes and all the things and we'll put pictures.

Susan Bratton:
we'll put everything there and orgasmic cross -training, there'll be a link there to the eight types of pleasure tools that will activate your entire yoni so that you have so many more orgasms, they're more easy to achieve, they last longer, they're more intense, you can have more of them and that all just flows right over to your partner because once you activate all that tissue, it's almost like your partner can do no wrong, everything they touch will begin to feel good and you'll begin to have orgasm so you won't have to rely on that one or the two pathway strategy, you'll have lots and lots of pathways and this is the thing, as you age and mature, you get all of these things start happening one by one by one, you can knock them off, you can check them off the list really by having all these different kinds of experiences and pleasuring all of these different areas of your body.

Melanie Avalon:
So question about the the flow and the nitrous oxide and everything. So that's really interesting because I think I think people think about that a lot for men. Like normally the focus is on men needing all of that. A few questions surrounding it is is that supplement for both men and women and it's such a eye -opener to hear that women should be supporting this pathway as well. How does it compare? It's interesting I was actually recently talking with Dave about this. I was asking his recommendations for men and he was recommending the nitric oxide sublingual tablets. So the supplement that you've made that supports natural nitric oxide production. A, is it men and women? B, when do you take it? Is it like is it something where you're taking it ongoing to support that in general or is it an actual like time release thing like you take it and then you're and then you go. I might have more questions but yes can you tell us a bit more about that supplement flow? Yeah.

Susan Bratton:
So Flow Nitric Oxide Booster, made from organic fruits and vegetables, best to take two of them at night in a perfect world. Honestly, it can take them any time, but two at night because your nitric oxide stores build back up at night when you're resting. So two before bed is good with your magnesium and your melatonin and whatever else you're taking at night. And then two before lovemaking also supports more of a boost. And you have to rebuild your stores because almost everything by the time you're 50, you have half the nitric oxide production that you had at 20. And remember going back to the Play -Doh where we turned the penis into the clitoral structures. There are three clitoral structures. There's the clitoral, urethral, and perineal structures. And if I took them all out of your body and put them in your hand, they'd cover your hand. If I took all the tissue out of your partner's penis and put it in your hand, it would cover your hand. They weigh the same, put them on a scale, pound for poundage for inch, we have the same amount of erectile tissue. All the studies are done for men because all the studies are done for men because we live in a patriarchal world where only men's pleasure counts. That's why you and I today, Melanie, are writing the wrongs of the patriarchal past and moving into feminine empowered pleasure. Because frankly, how long are you gonna wanna have sex if it's all for his pleasure and not yours too? So the sublingual nitric oxide, a lot of times people like to say that that's better because you can get a test strip right after and test it and you'll see it. And so it's like proof. And so it's like, I feel like it's a marketing trick, but whatever, nitric oxide production is, it comes from leafy green vegetables, beetroot, and some herbs like dill is very high in the Oryx scores that are required for nitric oxide production. But the problem is that the nitrates in our soils are depleted now with our big agriculture. And so it's even hard, even if you eat greens every day, still supplementing will help. So I think it's, you know, for me, my foundation supplements are things like a daily multivitamin, multi -mineral complex with libido botanicals built in because I like to support my libido, even though my libido is high, it's high partly because I support it. I also take testosterone, in addition to estrogen and progesterone. At 63, I still have my period and I want to because once you hit menopause, you're hitting your planned obsolescence and your aging rapidly accelerates. And so I like to keep my youthfulness and my vitality by continuing to menstruate. So I take enough estrogen to continue to menstruate. Not all women want to do that, but I do. The testosterone I put right on like literal and labial structures, so it keeps that meaty, helps me build muscle. I strength train. Topical testosterone.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, I do topical testosterone. It keeps my muscles strong. It keeps my voice strong. It keeps my confidence high. It helps me with cognitive function, not just libido. It's so good for me. And then I also take omega fatty acids. I also take primidine, spermidine. Spermidine is very interesting. Spermidine, putrescine, and purine are three components. They were initially identified out of semen. That's why the Taoists had these longevity practices where they would do semen retention. And they wanted to live forever. They didn't care about their partner. But semen is actually very good for the female body because we get the spermidine. We get the putrescine. We get the spermine. We get serotonin. We get luteinizing hormone. We get testosterone. We get a lot of things from semen that are very good for us. So I like the primidine because it's a gluten -free version. You like greens. You like your chlorellas and your spirulina and things like that, as do I. And I love that they have an Okinawan chlorella -based spermidine. And that's a really nice product. I take a lot of longevity -oriented products, senolytics, rapamycin, things like that, in addition to hormones.

Melanie Avalon:
Do you take rapamycin? I do. How long have you been taking it? Years. Yeah. I'm so fast.

Susan Bratton:
me too. I don't take metformin. It bothers my stomach. I find it upsets my stomach, but it's supposed to be quite good for you too. And so yeah, I really like supplementation and I like taking food -derived supplements. I take Shilajit for humic and folic acid for the, you know, kind of ionic minerals that are in that. I also take a funny little supplement called Oystermax, which has iodine in it. We need iodine for our thyroid and our breast tissue. Men need iodine for the thyroid, which is the metabolism, regularly. And we need it for prostate health. So I really like that. I do a lot of photobiomodulation, red light therapy, intravaginally. I want to talk about that with you. Yeah, flow is an excellent product that you can take every day to just supplement the nitric oxide production. So you have more blood flow to your genitals, which then expands the erectile tissue that you have in your genitals, which then creates more surface area, sends more signals to your brain, gives you more satisfying orgasms. Better lubrication, etc., etc., etc.

Melanie Avalon:
Awesome. This is so amazing. Either way, I'll have to send you my berberine. That's what I think as my alternative to metformin. Yes. I think that's it.

Susan Bratton:
that's fantastic. I'm a big berberine champion. I love the insulin regulation. I mean, and what I like about it is it's a natural product.

Melanie Avalon:
I love that. So yeah, I'd like to try your Burberry. I have to send you I'll send you all the things. Okay, I'll send you all my things. Yay, all the things. This is fabulous. Okay, that was a wonderful, wonderful list for people to, to really optimize everything. The red light, I've been thinking, and I was telling you this before my mom, my mom would die if I actually started making products like these, but I would love to make a vibrator that is red light as well.

Susan Bratton:
too. So the product that I recommended, did you get your VFIT yet? Your vagina device?

Melanie Avalon:
from me yet? I got no, I just got the Joel Kaplan lady pump. Yes, I got that.

Susan Bratton:
I think I had one sent to you so it might not have gotten here yet, but there is a vagina device that I like that uses its intravaginal, goes inside you, and it's red light therapy, so photobiomodulation with warmth and vibration. And the warmth is really good for re -collagenation of the vaginal mucosal lining. The red light therapy of the vagina device is fantastic because what it does. Winton's number one issue as they age is loss of lubrication, and then their second one is vaginal laxity, which means thinning of the tissue which makes the vagina kind of more open, loss of pelvic musculature, so pelvic tone, which means they're not getting the grip and the contractions for orgasms, and loss of orgasmic intensity, and also kind of a drop in the outer labia so that it looks kind of like fallen, not as plump and young as it used to look. And so there are two things that really make a big difference. One is kind of an at -home device done for you that targets some of these issues, and one is a treatment that you go have that targets more of them and is even more kind of efficacious. The internal vaginal device with the red light, the warmth, and the toning is great if you're having loss of lubrication and vaginal laxity and incontinence, which we all suffer from. And that's great. But if you're also feeling that your orgasms are diminished, you're having kind of like a droopiness, you're having worse incontinence, you're having, you know, real loss of lubrication, and then you go and get the gains way for her treatments. It's a series of six treatments, but I'm going to give you a link on your page. I'll put a link, I'll put my link on there. I don't get paid for this, but I have a promo code kind of a thing that it's not a promo code, it's a link that gets you a seventh treatment free. So I'll just put that on your page. What it does is it uses shockwave technology, and it's rubbed across the vulva and the clitoris and on the outside of the vaginal area. It doesn't have to go up inside you. And it stimulates through pen, it penetrates the tissue and stimulates new tissue growth, which stimulates new capillaries and blood supply, which stimulates new nerve growth. So you get your sensation back, you get your orgasm back, you reduce or eradicate the incontinence that you're suffering from. Your vaginal tissue plumps up, you're able to hold more moisture in your vaginal tissue, it tightens and tones the vaginal tissue and the pelvic tissue. So you're actually getting your tone back, you're getting your orgasmic contraction back, like that's the gold standard. And that's called FemiWave. You can get that for men too, it started out for men gains wave to reverse erectile dysfunction. And I do not recommend vaginal lasers and RF devices because they damage so much. Yeah, I mean, I like hormesis, it's all well and good. Get a cold plunge or things like that, like what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. But you don't need to burn the tissues, subcutaneous tissues to repair them. And so the FemiWave is a much more effective, whole, yoney restoration regenerative therapy. Not just burning your vaginal lining, which is what basically the RF device and the CO2 laser, by the way, real cells. If you look at the cost of doing those vaginal lasering types of things, they're like $1 ,500 to $2 ,700, you got to do them over and over and over again, it's ridiculous. And then there's one last thing for women, the red light device, the vagina device that we're talking about, the red light up inside your vagina, that's great if you don't have any of the extra things. I really love that if you're just starting to notice incontinence, you're just starting to notice some laxity, you're just starting to notice some loss of lubrication. Or if you have an odor that you're like, that just doesn't smell right. But my gynecologist has done, you know, the cultures and says, no, I don't have bacterial vaginosis. No, I don't have a yeast overgrowth. It's because those tests might not pick it up, but as your estrogen declines, your glycogen levels decline, and the glycogen is the sugar that your good bacteria in your vagina and your erythrocanal eat to survive. Red light stimulates glycogen. So when you put the red light inside you with the warmth and the toning, I literally put it in the morning every couple of times a week, put it in if I feel like it, and then I don't do it for a while. Then I'm like, oh, I need to start doing this again. I'm having a little leakage or I'm having a little thinning or I'm feeling it's a little friable. I'll start using my vagina device again, and then it just kind of gets rid of that problem. But for a lot of women, they're like, thank you so much. I didn't even want my husband to go down on me because I just felt embarrassed about how I smelled. He was like, it's okay, baby, but I just didn't like it. And now it's gone because I had the glycogen levels improve from the red light. Isn't that interesting? These systems, these biomes are fascinating, aren't they?

Melanie Avalon:
Yeah, no, this is amazing. Okay, so yeah, you answered Lily's question because she wanted to know about Gaines wave and Fimi wave. Is that okay, is that different than I tried something. So I do M sculpt, I know. Okay, so I do that. And then the place where I go there, they said they had a version of it for all of this. I don't remember what it was called, but I basically sat on this machine and it did the same sort of it created contractions down there.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, that's like Emsela. That's like Emsela. It's almost like a PMF map in a way. Yeah, Gaines Wave is different. It's called Shockwave, and there's radial and linear. And the thing is that there are a lot of people offering Shockwave genital rejuvenation, and I would only go to Gaines Wave because one of my girlfriends, she just went to a structural structure, and she's had pain for months because they don't know what they're doing. They're like, well, we're just following the manufacturer's procedures order. Now, Gaines Wave trains all of their practitioners. They have to be certified to apply these things, so you have to be very careful. That's the same with these lasers. They created lasers for facial skin, and then they're like, whoa, we should put the lasers into a wand and stick it up people's vaginas. It's like men designed this stuff. It really pisses me off.

Melanie Avalon:
Wow. Okay. Yeah, that's really, really good to know. Okay. So the VFED is the one with all of the red light and all of that.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, that's the at -home red light device.

Melanie Avalon:
When you do it, is it something where you put it in and can walk around or is it like a session you do where you're sitting down, laying down? You put it in while you're sitting in bed. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. That sounds incredible.

Susan Bratton:
every 10 minutes. You can just scroll Instagram, make a post when you're done.

Melanie Avalon:
Awesome. Love it. Love it. Um, so, um, and for listeners, you can get 10% off with the code Melanie Avalon. And again, this will all be at Melanie Avalon .com slash sexy. So this is so great. Okay. So how many of those overlapped with the eight tools for women? Zero. Zero. Okay. That was all more about biohacking or, you know, rejuvenation and health and optimizing that area, not about the actual sex toys type thing.

Susan Bratton:
Yes. So this is the interesting thing. So what's the difference between sexual regenerative therapies and sexual biohacking? I put Gaines Wave and the vagina device, the VFIT, into the regenerative. Then I put the sex toys, the tools, the eight different types of tools that stimulate the eight different areas of the vulva. There's like air stimulator, thruster, wand, G -spot tool. Those are the kind of the categories. And I have the ones. Here's the thing. Let's talk about phthalates. So last night I went to see a documentary screening called We Are All Plastic People Now. Oh, I believe it. And they are measuring our blood and finding 28 different types of plastics in our blood. They're finding it in placentas. They're finding it in men's testicles. They're finding it in every turtle swimming around in our oceans. We're just completely turning into plastic. And the sex toys, tools that I recommend, there are so many horrible tools out there that have phthalates and plasticizers that leak into your vaginal mucosal lining. If you wouldn't put it in your mouth, you shouldn't put it inside your vagina or on your vulva anywhere. And yet companies have, they don't care about our health. So the only tools you're gonna find in my eight tool cross -training link on your sexy page are going to be the highest quality products with no phthalates and plasticizers in them of the premium silicone. And even that is still imperfect. The only thing that's not plastic is a G -spot glass wand or stainless steel wand, but they don't vibrate. So you're still working with some materials, but Foria, which I want to talk about next, is the CBD. They have a non -CBD based version for those of you who live in Canada, or those of you who are living in states where you can't get deliveries of CBD based products, or you're tested at work, or you have a fundamental thing around, I don't use any hemp related products in my life. No worries. Everything I'm about to say, also comes in CBD free, but Foria is only one of the three companies out there that has lubricants that do not have what are called organic fluorines. They are all like KY, all the stuff in CVS, Target, Walmart, Walgreens, all has garbage in it. And two of the other three lubricants have stuff in them that I probably pre -penal, add a lot of da -da -da -da. Okay, so it doesn't have organic flurries, but it has other crap in it that I'm not putting in my vulva. The only brand I recommend, and not only am I happy to recommend them because they're clean, I'm recommending them because they are marvelous, is the Foria products. And I've gotten you special discount codes on those for your sexy page too. I have something called the Pleasure Protocol. There's three products that work together in concert that I recommend. Their one product is called Melts. And they're these little cocoa butter, CBD, and botanical they almost look like little pieces of candy. Little clear, not clear, but like cocoa butter, little pieces of candy. But you put it in your vagina and it melts inside your vagina and it coats your vagina. And they even have relief melts, which if you've got your period or you're going through menopause, you're having dryness, they're double the CBD. And CBD is a cannabinoid. It's a phytocannabinoid. And we have endocannabinoid receptors in our body. And our endocannabinoid system, we've got receptors in our tissue, we've got receptors in our organs, we have a lot of endocannabinoid receptors in our genital structures, in our yoni. And that is our pleasure healing pathway. And so the phytocannabinoids activate our own endocannabinoids and they actually make us feel better. So you actually feel more pleasure. And if you've got your period or you're in menopause, they can help you with things like the dryness or just being feeling bad down there. And so you put a melt in. Let's just say you're with a partner, you're going to have intercourse, you're going to have a day. Put a melt in, let it melt in there, which is great. Then, and by the way, if he goes down on you, no big deal because it's cocoa butter and botanicals, right? And then when you start to get like maybe 20 minutes before maybe have him give you a yoni massage and to have him coat the outer vulva with a few drops of the Awaken Arousal Oil, that starts, it's like a pre -lubricant and it starts sending pleasure signals to your biggest sex organ, your brain. And your yoni is, it kind of goes, oh, that feels good. And that gets you relaxed and things start flowing. You need the flow to get the letdown, to get the blood flow into your pelvic bowl, to wet your vagina, to get the tissue expanded. And then you can use sex oil, which is this beautiful, clean CBD -based oil for all the slide and glide that you want reapply as much as you need as you go. Like if you're having intercourse for a while or what have you, you can add more. And if you want to go back and forth between oral pleasuring and intercourse, you can wipe it off. And it smells wonderful, very subtle, fresh. And I also love their breast oil. I have learned, I didn't even used to like my breasts now. I love my breasts and I love how the nipple gasms are so orgasmic. They really help with all of that, the fluid running into your clitoral structures, because your nipples and your mouth and your yoni, your genital system, are all part of a greater system, an arousal system. So one of the ways to kind of get the arousal really going is kissing, breast play, oral pleasuring before penetration. And then you're much better, easier, more frequent and intense.

Melanie Avalon:
Oh my goodness. I'm so excited. I have questions for you. So my experience with Foria, I was telling you this before, they first sent me some of their products. It was a long time ago. I mean, it might have been three years ago or so. I love them. I was so impressed with the ingredients. Like you said, it's such a minimal ingredient list. It's just the good stuff and they're in glass bottles which I love and I love the CBD inclusion. Okay, so my questions here are, so with the, I've used the melts, the vaginal suppositories and I would always put them in like in the moment but I love this idea of putting it in basically at the beginning of the night. Like before the date, is that what you're saying would be a good timeline? So then it's kind of like warming things up. That's so exciting. I love this idea.

Susan Bratton:
make you feel wet. And when you feel wetness, it is a signal that you're turning on.

Melanie Avalon:
Oh my goodness, I need to, even if I'm not going to have a physical relationship with the person, I feel like I should put one of these in before every date, just to warm up my body. They have vibrance melts for every day. Oh, okay. I didn't realize that. Yeah. They have relief. They have booty melts. Okay. The intimacy one are the ones I've been using. So.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, and to me, they're great. Relief have double the CBD. They have booty melts, which have more jojoba oil. It took me until my early 60s to really begin to understand how great anal pleasure can be. And I love the booty melts, because that's the thing. It's really hard to get lubes up inside those canals. And so the melt just pops right up there and melts inside. So you're not trying to get lube up inside. Oh my god, it's so good.

Melanie Avalon:
Okay. And I have a question about that that I'll circle back to important question though that I really have here. And I've wondered this people asking this all the time. So, so this is made with MCT oil. I love historically using MCT oil and coconut oil. I've also been told by some I've read in some books and some guests have told me that that actually disrupts the microbiome down there that you shouldn't use MCT or coconut oil. I feel like there's a lot of opinions here. Do you have an opinion? Yes.

Susan Bratton:
there's a very, very specific difference. So MCT oil, yes, it's safe. Coconut oil, no, not safe. Coconut oil has, it's like unrefined, and it has like proteins in it, and it can like ball up with your own vaginal, you know, mucosal lube liquids, and make like these little chunks. And it's naturally, when it's unrefined, it's naturally antibacterial, so it can disrupt your vaginal microbiome. MCT is refined just to get that specific MCT oil, and that doesn't have the antibacterial, and it doesn't have all those things that turn into chunky things in your vagina. Yeah, so the MCT oil's the clean one.

Melanie Avalon:
that you want. Okay. I'm so excited. I'm going to stock up on these melts and I'm going to start using their sex oil, their arousal oil. This is so great. Okay. I'm very excited. And then a question about the anal. I was dating a doctor and he told me that once, he later told me he regretted telling me this, but he told me that he said not to have anal sex because once you did, once you like stretch that area, it would never go back. Is there any, have you heard anything about this or is there any issues with anal sex and like the structure of it back there?

Susan Bratton:
Ask every gay man in the world they're fine their butts go right back you know big you get big who's out of there. It's a muscle it's made to stretch you just have to give it warm up time and a lot of lubrication and it's best to start on the outside with your you know your butt cheeks your sweet cheeks and then the anal sphincter and getting back relaxed and then slowly a small singer inside long before there's any penetration. And it's best if the woman is kind of managing the depth and the you know how fast things are moving allowing her to have control so she can just ease into it slowly is very helpful as well. And I highly recommend trying anal sex be anal intercourse over time because it's another kind of orgasm you can have that's completely different just like a G spot orgasm is completely different or cervical orgasm is completely different or a bellygasm or a footgasm I mean they're all so different that it's.

Melanie Avalon:
It's fun to have them all. And then, speaking of the different types of orgasms and G -spot orgasms and such, so these different, these eight different tools are those two achieve different types of orgasms.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, they both give you different types of orgasms and they stimulate all the different areas of your genital structures. So they're going to stimulate different locations. And they're also going to use different types of things like there are different types of nerve ends. Oh, this is one of the things we wanted to talk about too was women are like, well, I'm afraid I'm going to desensitize myself and that I won't be able to have an orgasm from, you know, finger stimulation or peanuts. It's the opposite of that. It's actually that you're sensitizing all the tissue. There's corpuscles. There's nerve endings. There's things that like stretching. There's things that like vibration. There's things that like tapping. There's things that like pressure. So we have mechanoreceptors. We have all these different components in our genital structures and we like different types of stimulation in different areas. And when those different areas get those different types of stimulation, then the brain is like, oh, that gives me pleasure. Oh, that gives me pleasure too. Oh, that feels good too. Oh, that feels good too. Oh, that feels good too. And then when you have partnered sex, number one, you can incorporate all those choice that you want to during partnered sex. Like two of the best things you can have are one is a penis ring with a vibrator on it so that you can keep him harder and firmer longer and grind on him and put that on your clitoris. Or you can put a vibrator on your clitoris like a wand or what have you. Or you can use a G -spotter on yourself while you're going down on your partner. Like you can integrate a lot of these different toys. Just because you're using them for solo orgasmic activation doesn't mean you can't also bring them into the bedroom. Like one of my favorite things to do a lot of times after I've had a whole bunch of different orgasms in a whole bunch of different ways, I still have a couple left inside me and my partner is complete. So I'll lay back against him and have him play with my breasts or just even hold me while I get a couple of last orgasms out with my big wand and then on complete. So we women have a massive orgasmic capacity and we are really under utilizing that. And all of those orgasms are really helping extend our sex span, not just our health span and our longevity, but our sex span. The more you have orgasms later in your life, the healthier and happier you are, the more regulated your nervous system is, the more oxytocin you produce, which is oxytocin is produced through lovemaking, through touch, through pleasure, through orgasm. And what's interesting about it is that when, and it doesn't matter whether it's solo pleasure or partnered pleasure, oxytocin is like the antidote to cortisol. And we have so much cortisol in our systems because we're stressed out living in the society in which we live right now. It's very stressful to be alive right now. And you know, it's kind of like we're running from tigers all day long every day. And so we need oxytocin. But here's the interesting thing about oxytocin. It's actually, it's a hormone that's produced in our gut. So when we have dysbiosis, when we have gut issues or autoimmune inflammation, things like that, or we've had to have rounds of antibiotics, it's likely that the lactobiliceruteri, which is the bacteria that makes us generate oxytocin, has been killed off. And so we have a hard time. We're low oxytocin generators, which means we can't counteract cortisol and stress. So one of my friends makes a lactobiliceruteri supplement. It's called gut to glow. And it's from oxycytics. And what's nice about that particular lactobiliceruteri is that you can fill your system back up with lactobiliceruteri. And you'll start not the oxytocin will actually make you like people better. I believe it. And I make my own yogurt. So I make my smoothie every day and I put all my stuff in it. And I make my own yogurt with the Gut2Glo Lactobilis ruterei. Like I buy one bomb when I have it for like two years because I just keep making my use my culture and make a new batch, culture new batch. It makes you have a very high colonizing unit. You have like a high level of Lactobilis ruterei. And what's interesting about Lactobilis ruterei is it's really complimentary with your Burberry because it is an insulin regulator. Lactobilis ruterei does many things. And another thing that it does is it trims your waistline. It gives you a waist, a cut in your waist like when you were little. It's incredible. I have like a waist and I didn't have that for like 30 years till I started making my yogurt and eating that every day. You can just take the supplement. I just don't take that because I make the yogurt because I like to have my own yogurt because first of all, I'm not eating out of plastic. I make my yogurt in a glass jar. It's really easy to make with a Luvele yogurt maker. The second thing is I'm not making trash. The third thing is that the yogurts that are made, most of the yogurts that are that you buy at the grocery store are flash made and they have a lot of added sugar and thickeners and things like that. That's why I make my own nut milk too. Yes, I have to buy my nuts in a plastic bag, which is a bummer, but it's one little bag, not heaps of nut milk containers. I'm not filling up the landfills and there's not so much plastic. I'm not getting a liquid that's touching plastic. So I don't know. These are just two things that I'm doing because once you learn how to do it, they're so easy. So easy to make your own nut milk with a nut milk. I like the almond cow. I make my own fresh, it doesn't have carrageen, it doesn't have thickeners, it doesn't have artificial flavors or colors or any of that stuff in it. It's not plastic. It's fantastic, I love it.

Melanie Avalon:
a little glass jar in my fridge. I love this. I went down the rabbit hole and was making my own cottage cheese. I bet that was good. That was fun. I feel like cottage cheese became a trend. It was like right before that I missed the timeline a little bit because I was making videos. No, I love that you do that. It's so nice to have the agency to control exactly what you're putting in your body. Like you said, avoid those plastics and it's wonderful. Like you said, it sounds difficult, but once you learn how to do the different things, it's really not, at least in my experience. Yeah.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, it's a learning curve, but we have to learn everything. Why not learn that? But I understand. People are busy. You've got to have convenience. There's no shame here. We're all doing what we can do. I work from home. I'm in a very different situation. I work from home. I cook my meals myself because I work from home. It's one of the reasons I wanted to be in the work that I do because I wanted that control. But I understand that it may not be for you. But there could be someone listening who's like, oh, shit, I'm going to do that too. That sounds good. What's that thing called again? I'm going to do that. And then I've just nipped in someone's weight, regulated their insulin and gotten them some more oxytocin and made them healthier and lowered the landfill.

Melanie Avalon:
And just to comment a little bit on what you were talking about earlier with the toys and everything. I actually, I realized I used this as a, I don't know what the word would be. I very quickly present to people that I'm dating the idea of bringing in toys. And it's kind of, what's the word? It's like a test. Because if they're like, if they're not for that, I'm like, okay, no, no. Because I remember I had one girlfriend and the guy she was dating didn't want her to use any toys because he wanted to be the one to give her the pleasure. And I was like, no. It's a hard no for me.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, guys need to be educated that we're not replacing them, we're enhancing the experience together, and that when they can hear us come so well and in so many ways, that it's just more joyful and more pleasurable and more expansive and that we're going to teach them what's pleasurable for us and it's always going to be different every time they have sex with us. It's going to be a great adventure to have sex with us because we're the kind of woman who's learning new things all the time. Our desires are constantly changing. We want new things and we want them to be our experienced partner, our sexual adventure buddy, and that we're just oriented toward trying a lot of things, but that we like the experience of learning things together. I'm going to teach you some things, you're going to have some ideas. You know, one of my most popular things, I'll put this on the sexy page, it's my sex life bucket list and it's a downloadable PDF. I don't keep your information, there's nothing I track of your choices. It's not like an online quiz where I'm gathering information. I don't like gathering information on people, like too many big tech is gathering information on us and using it against us these days. So it's just a downloadable PDF and then I give you a video and if you're single, you watch it, you watch the video and you have the print, you kind of like print it out at home type of thing and you mark, there's 48 erotic play dates and I explain what they all are because you're like, what is that even? You know, like some of this stuff, you've never heard it. And then you hear it and you're like, oh my God, I never even heard of it before. Now it's like one of my things I want to do the most and you end up getting, you mark each of the things an A, a B, or C. The A's are, oh, this is definitely going on my bucket list. B's are, well, it's not for me, but if you want to do it, I would totally do that with you. C's are, it's not for me right now. Never say never because you could go, wow, I thought spanking was like some kind of degrading thing for women or like wearing lingerie. It was like, you know, slutty or something and now I want to do lingerie photo shoots and, you know, put my phone on and take videos of us having sex where I'm wearing my cute lingerie and watch it later with you or what I, you know, I could just, you evolve, you mature, you gain skills, you expand. And when you can pitch your part, you know, your prospective partner as someone who's like, this is one of my values is growth experiences, including in my sexuality. I think you could be open to things with me. Let's learn things together. If they're a no to that, then kick them to the curb. But if they're just like, well, why would you need a toy if you have me say, oh, well, let me show you all the reasons why you wouldn't believe the kinds of things we can do together with these toys. It's super fun. Have you ever tried a vibrating cock ring? You know, they're like, well, I never have, but that sounds kind of funny riding on me, getting off while you're moaning. Okay, I could do that.

Melanie Avalon:
Oh my gosh, this is so funny, I love this.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, so that's a sex -like bucket list. I'll put that on your sexy page so people can download.

Melanie Avalon:
that. Thank you. I'm also dying to know because you did send it to me and I have both the male one and the female, the Joel Kaplan, the pumps. Yeah.

Susan Bratton:
I was kind of saving it for laughs because it's very sexual biohacking. Essentially, it's called a vacuum erection device. For men, it's a cylinder and they put their penis in it and they use this little hand pump and it pulls the air out of the cylinder and it sucks the cylinder onto their abdomen with their penis inside it and then that pulls more blood up into their penis and makes it have more blood carrying capacity. It actually stretches the tissue. It brings in new capillaries which grow new nerve endings and it builds more tissue in the penis and it can be used to reverse erectile dysfunction. You can continue to use it consistently and it's like bodybuilding. It's like progressive overload. It's like you use the pump and then you have a day of recovery and it builds new tissue and you can actually use it for penis enlargement. I've probably helped 10 ,000 men enlarge their penises. We call it the Whopper. It's a dual cylinder system. It increases length and girth. I think you have my link to my pumping guide on your sexy page and that tells you the protocols for ED versus enlargement and how you can get the gains and exactly what to do and what the vacuum pressure should be. It's very easy. It feels good. You have firmer erections. It makes your penis bigger and that gives you more sensitivity and bigger orgasms, more intense orgasms. It's unbelievable. Most pumps are knockoffs. They don't have proper gauges. Water pumps are ineffective compared to air pumps. They're not gauged well. They're not sized well. The particular pump that is the only pump I recommend is the one that I've sent you and there's like 30 reasons why it's the good one. They also have lay pumps and they have clitoral nipple and vulva pumps. One of the interesting things is that I use it for both vulva. I don't need the nipple pump because I don't have inverted nipples. That's mostly what that's used for, but I use the vulva pump. Inverted nipples? Inverted. They stick in instead of out and you can make them pump out. A woman might have nipples when she was formed in utero that didn't protrude. The vulva pump is for the entire outer lavia and underneath the outer lavia where your pubic hair is on each side of your vulva, that's where the legs of your clitoris live. They're like these little spongy bags underneath the lavia, which is why your when you get really turned on, your lavia plump up. Well, you can actually plump the legs and arms of the clitoral structure of that spongy tissue inside the clitoris with the vulva pump and then you can use the little clitoral pump and put that right on the clitoral tip and shaft and pump that up and your little clit will pop right up into that chamber right into that little cylinder and you'll bring all this blood flow in and you'll increase the surface area of the clit and you'll get when you start having, when you start, you know, getting turned on as you begin a pumping routine and you don't have to do it much. It's very fast acting. You will actually have a bigger clitoral erection from using the clitoral and the vulva pumps. You'll have more engorgement, more intense orgasms, more pleasure, more ability to orgasm from different stimulation. It's like an accelerator on your pleasure. So you can do lady pump, you can do man pump, you can do, you know, you can do that as a couple, a lot of couples pump together. They'll pump a couple days a week between, you know, lovemaking dates as self -care down there. That's one of my hashtags, self -care down there.

Melanie Avalon:
Wow, okay, so if I were to integrate this lady pump into my routine Would I would do it separately from my orgasm sessions or part of them?

Susan Bratton:
at. You can pump up before you solo pleasure interest.

Melanie Avalon:
Okay.

Susan Bratton:
And then you can rub testosterone cream on your clit too. Oh wow, okay. A couple times a week and you'll increase your testosterone, you'll increase your confidence, you'll increase your muscle mass, you'll increase your cognitive function, you'll increase your confidence and you'll increase your orgasm and you'll increase the meatiness of your clitoris. Oh my goodness. This is like super nerdy biohacking stuff.

Melanie Avalon:
I know, I know. I hadn't tried it yet because it honestly looks a little intimidating. I was like, I gotta wait till I interview her and ask her.

Susan Bratton:
It's easy. Oh, and how do you pump how much pressure? You do it to feel, and you do it very slowly. The pumping session. You shouldn't be like pumping it up to as much as you can stand. You should be pumping very, very slowly and then adding a little more and then adding a little more. It should never, ever be painful. For the penis, there's a very specific pumping to negative pressure protocol for reversing ED and one for enlargement. But for the lady pump, it is very much about slowly bringing the...

Melanie Avalon:
Okay. And you mentioned it and you've said it again, but it really is for men effective with ED? Yeah.

Susan Bratton:
Yes. The combination of the penis pump, Gaineswave, and nitric oxide supplementation is the triumvirate that will reverse erectile dysfunction. Now they got ED because they have probably atherosclerosis or insulin dysregulation or something like that. They're not working out enough. They're not getting their blood moving. They're getting plaque in their penile arteries. The Gaineswave will knock that plaque off, stimulate new tissue growth, really help reconstitute the penis. The pumping every other day will support the Gaineswave and help with the reconstitution of the penile tissue. But they probably also have to change their diet and work out more.

Melanie Avalon:
Yeah, I wish it could be more understood how much of an impact that has like just starting with I mean, the biohackers and our whole community often are aware of it, but the general population I just I'm just like if you just start with basics with metabolic health, there's so much potential there.

Susan Bratton:
well, that's why you're doing the good work you do in the world and you have to think about it. What you are creating here with the Melanie Avalon podcast is a safe space to have these kinds of friend discussions. There's no place else people are hearing about this, so you're doing good work in the world by allowing me to come on and give me a platform because people are going to listen to this segment. They're going to be like, damn, I didn't know like 87% of that. I didn't even know about it. We just opened up a whole world of possibility to pleasure that people didn't even know was a thing. So thank you.

Melanie Avalon:
No, thank you. I am so grateful for the work you're doing. We couldn't have these conversations if, you know, people like you weren't doing this. Was there anything else you wanted to touch on? I feel like we covered so much. I'm so, so grateful.

Susan Bratton:
I feel like, you know, I'm here for you. But we kind of had the intention of covering these things. And I thought we did a pretty damn good.

Melanie Avalon:
No, I'm, I'm so excited. So, so again, for listeners, Melanie, Avalon .com slash sexy, all the links, all the codes, all the awesome resources that Susan is providing, they'll all be there. They'll also be a transcript. Check that link out now. This also, I'm just thinking now, like these Forea products and all these things, not just for yourself, these would make great gifts. You know, like when you're trying to think of like gifts for people, especially like girlfriends, I just want to, I just, I just start giving the Forea stuff as gifts to all of them.

Susan Bratton:
Yeah, it's a really nice gift. You can buy each one of the three products, the Meltz, the Awakened Arousal Oil, and the Sex Oil, individually in large size bottles. But you can also get this thing they call a Quickie Kit, which has a trial size of all three. And that's a nice gift.

Melanie Avalon:
Oh, yes. I love it. Love it. Well, the last question that I do ask every single guest on this show, and it is because I realize more and more each day how important mindset is. So what is something that you're grateful for?

Susan Bratton:
Boy, so much. But what came to my mind first was how our sexuality is a mindfulness practice. And we end up having sex, but we're often up in our head. And when you keep bringing yourself back to sensation, you begin to feel the pleasure more deeply. We all suffer from performance anxiety during sex. And the more that we can just keep coming back to our heart over and over, and the more that we can bring heart connection into our lovemaking, the more profound, more spiritual, more connected, more intimate, more rewarding, more satisfying, more oxytocin generating, it all is.

Melanie Avalon:
I love that. It's a brilliant, beautiful perspective. And like I said at the beginning, making that decision to have an orgasm every single night, I think honestly has been one of the most profound things in my personal health and wellness journey. And I just, again, I can't, speaking of the gratitude, I cannot thank you enough. Thank you for your time. Thank you for all that you're doing. Your content is incredible. You're empowering and helping and changing the lives of so many men and women. I can't wait to have you back on the show again and hopefully see you at next year's conference. Thank you.

Susan Bratton:
Thank you so much. I do want to give myself a little plug at the end. If you like what I've been saying and you want to learn more, I have an e -mail newsletter. I sent it out Wednesday through Sunday, and it has a sex tip every day of these kinds of things, but also like love -making techniques or pleasuring techniques, communication skills, dirty talk skills, pillow talk skills, all kinds of more of the techniques, less of the health and biohacking. I have that in there too, but a lot of like my core work is pleasure skills. So that's at betterlover .com. You can sign up there. And so if you'd like to do that, and then I'm on Instagram, Susan Bratton, and I have a lot of videos on there and all kinds of things. So you're welcome to connect with me there anytime.

Melanie Avalon:
I was so in the moment, I always usually end by asking for people's links. So thank you. So say the link again for your website is better, better lover, better lover .com, Susan Bratton on the socials. Yay. Thank you so, so much. This was the best. I really had a wonderful time. Me too. Much love to you. You too. Have a good rest of your day.